Re: MSDN Universal subscription changes (level and pricing)



"news.microsoft.com" wrote:

>
> You just have to get the last word, don't you.
>
> I meant that you tire me. You obviously can't comprehend what I (and
> others) are saying to you. Why is it that the only ones that can't
> understand the points we are making the so-called MVP's. I thought MVP's
> were independent of Microsoft. Is that not the case?
>
> "On my own dime..", What the hell do you mean by that? Is there some sort
> of fee for these newsgroups now? I wouldn't be surprised.
>
> GClark
>
>
> "Juan T. Llibre" <nomailreplies@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:unV91JsOFHA.3808@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > re:
> >> I'm too tired to deal with you right now.
> >
> > Give it, and yourself, a rest if you're "too tired".
> >
> > I think you should open a website, or start a blog,
> > or do anything you want...on your own dime.
> >
> > You'd be far more credible that way.
> >
> >
> >
> > Juan T. Llibre
> > ASP.NET MVP
> > http://asp.net.do/foros/
> > Foros de ASP.NET en Español
> > Ven, y hablemos de ASP.NET...
> > ======================
> >
> > "news.microsoft.com" <greg.anti.spam@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:%23dxSlAsOFHA.3048@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>
> >> You only get one "role" upgrade to Team System for Universal Subcribers.
> >> You do not get Team Server either.
> >> MSDN Universal is changing it's definition. It's not right. They're
> >> pulling the rug out from underneath us.
> >>
> >> What happens if I want to Test my apps, or maybe even Architect them, and
> >> not just be a Developer. I have to buy the whole damn suite plus the
> >> server for $15,000. It ain't right.
> >>
> >> Look at the feedback site, there are many other issues with this. It's
> >> all there for you to read. I'm too tired to deal with you right now.
> >> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/productfeedback/viewfeedback.aspx?feedbackId=2b58b8db-5bba-4dfc-be10-78ad43686b3b
> >
> >
> >> "Juan T. Llibre" <nomailreplies@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:%23v3g51rOFHA.3880@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> re:
> >>>> Just look at what MS targets -- they are after the big fish, and the
> >>>> rest of us are just road apples.
> >>>
> >>> I don't know what the complaint is, Julie,
> >>> particularly regarding "big fish" as compared to "road apples".
> >>>
> >>> Microsoft is putting out a brand new product line
> >>> ( the Express products ) for entry-level developers.
> >>>
> >>> Those will be just $49 each, in a wide variety of flavors :
> >>> VB.NET Express, Visual C Express, Visual C++ Express,
> >>> Visual J# Express and Visual Web Developer Express.
> >>>
> >>> Then, if you need more power, you can use
> >>> VS.NET Standard, which will run $299.
> >>>
> >>> If you need even more power, you can get
> >>> VS.NET Professional, at $799 or $549 upgrade.
> >>>
> >>> Only if you need VSTS, do you get into the high-price range.
> >>>
> >>> See
> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/mar05/03-21VS2005PR.asp
> >>>
> >>> Even so, if you have MSDN, you get a free upgrade
> >>> to MSDN Premium, which gets you VSTS fairly cheaply.
> >>>
> >>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/howtobuy/vs2005/
> >>>
> >>> Now, if the issue is that individual developers want to get
> >>> VSTS at a very low price, I don't think that's going to happen.
> >>>
> >>> As with everything in life, you get what you pay for.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Juan T. Llibre
> >>> ASP.NET MVP
> >>> http://asp.net.do/foros/
> >>> Foros de ASP.NET en Español
> >>> Ven, y hablemos de ASP.NET...
> >>> ======================
> >>>
> >>> "Julie" <julie@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>> news:O6qSKrrOFHA.2708@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> news.microsoft.com wrote:
> >>>>>>MICROSOFT PLEASE RECONSIDER. YOU WILL LOSE SALES. YOU WILL ALIENATE
> >>>>>>ALL CLASSES OF DEVELOPERS!
> >>>>
> >>>> Isn't it obvious yet that MS doesn't care about the small fish any
> >>>> more? Granted, back in the days of Win 3.1, we are what made MS what it
> >>>> is by actually pushing the OS in our places of work, but that means
> >>>> little now.
> >>>>
> >>>> Just look at what MS targets -- they are after the big fish, and the
> >>>> rest of us are just road apples.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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