Re: Java and .NET (no Flames Pls)

From: Jon Skeet [C# MVP] (skeet_at_pobox.com)
Date: 09/16/04 

Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 06:57:11 +0100

Daniel O'Connell [C# MVP] <onyxkirx@--NOSPAM--comcast.net> wrote:
> > I wonder how many of them have used Eclipse for long enough to get used
> > to it. It took me a while to get used to VS.NET, and I like it more
> > than I did to start with. I still miss incremental compilation,
> > intellisense that can display more than one overload at a time,
> > compile-on-save, the Eclipse project system, refactoring, contextual
> > diffs, organise imports, a decent source-safe plug-in (ironically!)...
>
> Well, incremental compilation never mattered much to me, for whatever reason
> most of the mistakes I make are truely egregious, like
>
> Console.WrtieLine("Whatever"):
>
> Which the parser picks up, or ones which aren't really compliation errors.
> Still, I can see the benifits.

Note that I don't mean "as you type" error detection - I mean actual
compilation. In Eclipse, by default it compiles the code every time you
hit save. If VS.NET did that, it would be a pain in the neck because it
would recompile a whole load of stuff which hadn't changed
 
> As for the source-safe plugin, I imagine the ecplise plugin is better than
> VSS itself, ;). I'm rather fond of Vault myself.

Unfortunately I'm stuck using VSS at work...

> As for refactoring, I never really considered it useful until whidbey. When
> I was learning java using eclipse, for whatever reason I didn't think it was
> very useful. I've been shown Iwas wrong since, but for some reason it
> seemed to be pointless at the time.

:)

I haven't had a careful look at what the support is like in Whidbey. My
guess is it won't be as extensive as Eclipse due to timescales, but
that probably doesn't matter - there aren't *many* refactorings I use
in Eclipse anyway. It's just that they're incredibly handy when I do
use them! 

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