Re: Java and .NET (no Flames Pls)

From: Daniel O'Connell [C# MVP] (onyxkirx_at_--NOSPAM--comcast.net)
Date: 09/16/04


Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:36:55 -0500


"Jon Skeet [C# MVP]" <skeet@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bb2a6278de782198b416@msnews.microsoft.com...
> Daniel O'Connell [C# MVP] <onyxkirx@--NOSPAM--comcast.net> wrote:
>> > If you love designers, VS.NET may be the bee's knees - I prefer
>> > actually writing code most of the time, and on that front, Eclipse is
>> > in the lead IMO.
>>
>> Interestingly, I've noticed that people who come from a java background
>> tend
>> to like Eclipse and Eclipse style ides, but people who have been using
>> visual studio for a long period of time tend to regard eclipse as lacking
>> in
>> alot of ways.
>>
>> I don't think its features, I think its more just subtle behavior. When I
>> use eclipse it just doesnt seem like...typing is the same as it is in
>> visual
>> studio.
>> Odd, to say the least.
>
> I wonder how many of them have used Eclipse for long enough to get used
> to it. It took me a while to get used to VS.NET, and I like it more
> than I did to start with. I still miss incremental compilation,
> intellisense that can display more than one overload at a time,
> compile-on-save, the Eclipse project system, refactoring, contextual
> diffs, organise imports, a decent source-safe plug-in (ironically!)...
>

Well, incremental compilation never mattered much to me, for whatever reason
most of the mistakes I make are truely egregious, like

Console.WrtieLine("Whatever"):

Which the parser picks up, or ones which aren't really compliation errors.
Still, I can see the benifits.

As for the source-safe plugin, I imagine the ecplise plugin is better than
VSS itself, ;). I'm rather fond of Vault myself.

As for refactoring, I never really considered it useful until whidbey. When
I was learning java using eclipse, for whatever reason I didn't think it was
very useful. I've been shown Iwas wrong since, but for some reason it
seemed to be pointless at the time.
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