Re: Java and .NET (no Flames Pls)

From: Daniel O'Connell [C# MVP] (onyxkirx_at_--NOSPAM--comcast.net)
Date: 09/15/04 

Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 13:18:09 -0500

"Jon Skeet [C# MVP]" <skeet@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bb25c273aa695f998b413@msnews.microsoft.com...
> Cowboy (Gregory A. Beamer) - MVP <NoSpamMgbworld@comcast.netNoSpamM>
> wrote:
>> What .NET offers for me, over Java, beyond all of the FUD thrown out in
>> perf
>> comparisons, etc., is Visual Studio .NET, which is a great IDE. I have
>> worked
>> with Java IDEs and I feel they pale in comparison. I have not touched
>> Java in
>> a little over a year, so there may be a new version of JBuilder that
>> really
>> rocks. I am working on what I know from the past. NOTE: I am not saying
>> choose a platform because it has cool tools.
>
> I found the exact opposite when I started with .NET. I missed (and
> still miss) some of the wonderful features of Eclipse. It's nice to
> know that Microsoft will have refactoring in VS.NET 2005 - only a few
> years after Java developers started thinking of it as pretty much a
> required feature for a decent IDE.
>
> We'll see whether VS.NET 2005 gets up to Eclipse's standard in other
> areas, of course, but I'm skeptical.
>
> If you love designers, VS.NET may be the bee's knees - I prefer
> actually writing code most of the time, and on that front, Eclipse is
> in the lead IMO.

Interestingly, I've noticed that people who come from a java background tend
to like Eclipse and Eclipse style ides, but people who have been using
visual studio for a long period of time tend to regard eclipse as lacking in
alot of ways.

I don't think its features, I think its more just subtle behavior. When I
use eclipse it just doesnt seem like...typing is the same as it is in visual
studio.
Odd, to say the least.
>
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