Re: Maintaining WS issues



Hello, Steven
Nice to hear back from MSFT.

It may be a lot better in VS2008 and/or with WCF. But we have not had a
chance to move to VS2008.
I have heard from people WCF is much better. The IIS version probably have
contributed to some of the problems, but then that part of the problems with
webservices.

Thanks,
Schneider


"Steven Cheng [MSFT]" <stcheng@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi eschneider,

Regarding on the issues you mentioned, some of them does exists when
dealing with some certain kind of projects in Visual Studio 2005. The
global classe issue maybe caused by a project converted from ASP.NET
1.1/VS 2003 project since the global class converted from original project
may confliect with a new one.

For the different deployment requirement, do you mean the IIS server? I
know that it may require different configuration for deploying web
application in IIS 5 and IIS 6 since they have different process model.
also, for the Visual Studio internal dev webserver, it is used for
developmente/test only, it can not be used for production(only accessible
from local machine).

I can understand your concerns that new features are kept being added into
Visual Studio and some functionality seems hard to use and may raise
problems. However, the visual tools and .net framework teams are really
working hard to address most of the issues. Actually most of the new
features also come from the community feedback and comments. Sure, there
may still occur problems in the new version of Visual Studio, but our dev
engineer will keep improving them. And those comments and feedback from
commuinty are really important and valuable for our improvement. You're
welcome to submit them to the connect site:

#Visual Studio and .NET Framework - English
https://connect.microsoft.com/feedback/default.aspx?SiteID=210&wa=wsignin1.0

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

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Reply-To: "eschneider" <eschneider@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "eschneider" <eschneider@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Maintaining WS issues
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:07:27 -0500

Just some common issues with WS:

Using custom objects: When objects change, seems you are always fixing
some
issue. Update references, which sometimes does not work.

Deployment:
Weird errors which take a while to fix because the error stink:
Forget to set ASP.NET 2.0="Parser Error Message: Could not load
type"
'*.Global' is ambiguous: it could come from assembly=I deleted the
following folders "Bin", "App_Code".

Different OS versions: have different deployment requirements/Security on
the box. (Think It could be easier, It's a public internet exposed
service,
or it's a corporate internal service)

Is the WS running? Where is it running? IIS or VS? what is the URL?
Where is the WS folder? Is it virtual?
They slow down VS solutions.
MS keeps changing how everything works together, all the time, making hard
to keep up with. (IIS vs. VS dev server, Security fixes)

Debugging is a pain, also seems you must step into them, to get it
working.
Also make sure you have it running first.

There is a lot more: VSS, and others I can't think of now.

WS Just seem to be a pain to maintain...

We have reached the point that we no longer use them unless we need to
interact with other technologies.
We tend to use mostly remoting now.

WCF seems to be better, but still seem it will suffers some of this.

We are currently using VS2005 pro.

Does anyone else have these issues?

Thanks,
Schneider







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