Re: Proposed MSDN Subscription Changes - VERY BAD!!!

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From: news.microsoft.com (greg.anti.spam_at_altavest.com)
Date: 03/22/05 

Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:32:58 -0800

I'm glad to see they've addressed this somewhat. I'm still a little worried
about the trend though.

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/mar05/03-21VS2005PR.asp

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2005/mar05/03-21DevToolsPricing.asp

One of my points is also that we developers are also the ones who often
recommend the tools to use for development to various companies we do work
for. If we cannot evaluate the product, we cannot recommend it. I need to
be able so see what the tools offer before I can recommend them. Not only
the tools, but Office products, the various servers, etc. We are directly
and indirectly responsible for many sales for MS.

As far as cost goes, I've usually been able to make the company I'm working
for at the time purchase MSDN. It is far easier to get $2500 approved than
it would be to get $5000, or even $10000. Those times when I have to
purchase MSDN myself would make it prohibitively expensive for me to
purchase. As a developer, I want all the tools I can get my hands on to
make my life as easy as possible. Often times, I work standalone, so I need
to use all the tools to get the job done. I suspect there are many one-man
shops out there. And, for those times when I have to work with others, I at
least want to know how to use the tools that we'll all be using. It is
critical that I get to at the very least familiarize myself with those
tools.

I have always supported MS and will continue to do so. I just want to make
sure they take care of me (and us) as a loyal developer, user, and
salesperson. I would hate to have to switch to a different platform because
the cost is prohibitive. I would hate to have to downgrade my subscription
and not be able to use the advanced tools because of cost. I've been able
to be a better developer and salesperson for MS because I've always had
access to the full line of products via Universal. It just feels like that
may change when they start tweaking with prices and levels. Universal means
Universal.

"news.microsoft.com" <greg.anti.spam@altavest.com> wrote in message
news:ePL1wDsLFHA.3788@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>I urge every developer who has an MSDN subscription (Universal) to petition
>MS to change their proposed ideas on Visual Studio Team Suite (VSTS).
>Depending on what you read, they are proposing to not include it or raise
>the price to between $5,000 and $10,000. Every developer who has helped MS
>make loads of cash of these past many years needs to write to them. Let
>them know they are about to alienate the one group that always and
>consistently helps them be successful. It is the most ridiculous thing
>they've ever proposed. Unbelievable!!!
>
> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/productfeedback/viewfeedback.aspx?feedbackId=2b58b8db-5bba-4dfc-be10-78ad43686b3b
>
>
> MICROSOFT PLEASE RECONSIDER. YOU WILL LOSE SALES. YOU WILL ALIENATE ALL
> CLASSES OF DEVELOPERS!
>
> We are the ones that stick up for you when everyone bashes MS.
>
> Help us help you!
>
> GClark
>

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