Re: WS Security issues
- From: "Henrik Skak Pedersen" <notavailable@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 10:44:37 +0200
I guess that I have a problem no matter whether I choose X.509 or SSL. I
still have to redistribute a unique certificate per customer and install it
on the users machine?
I can't generate the certificates when I install my product?
Or do I have to obtain it from VeriSign or another similar authorithy
everytime I sell a package?
Henrik
"Dilip Krishnan" <"dilip.krishnan AT apdiya DOT com"> wrote in message
news:e7biaGvZFHA.2128@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Yes you do have to redistribute the x509 if you choose to use it. With SCT
> you dont need the current username token... as long as you have the
> context token and send it with each request the service will assume
> authentication.
>
> Henrik Skak Pedersen wrote:
>> Thank you for your reply.
>>
>> But dont I then have to redistribute a new X509 certificate per customer?
>>
>> Do you know how I can send the current UsernameToken?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Henrik
>>
>> "Dilip Krishnan" <"dilip.krishnan AT apdiya DOT com"> wrote in message
>> news:eWWa0LuZFHA.3712@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>>+1,
>>>If you're looking to sign and encrypt using user name token, keep in mind
>>>the service will not be interoperable with java or other technologies.
>>>
>>>I guess your best option is to use username token for authentication and
>>>authorization. And use X509 certs for signing and encrypting. This is a
>>>little slower that ssl but from a purist standpoint you are now transport
>>>independent!
>>>
>>>Henrik Skak Pedersen wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi Yedu,
>>>>
>>>>Thank you very much for your reply.
>>>>
>>>>Would you use UsernameTokens for signing, encrypting and authentication?
>>>>How can I send the current UsernameToken?
>>>>How are you deploying "SSL settings"?
>>>>
>>>>Regards
>>>>
>>>>Henrik
>>>>
>>>>"Yedu" <Yedu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>news:C7E4560D-F7DF-43A1-9799-97BF2A2E48FC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>We have a similar setup that you described.
>>>>>We are sending the Username/password in the userName token, the
>>>>>Webservice
>>>>>server machine needs to be in the same domain as of the AD, if an
>>>>>invalid
>>>>>username/password is sent and it cannot be authenticated it will throw
>>>>>a
>>>>>SoapFault. The username/password is sent as plaintext in the
>>>>>usernameToken.
>>>>>
>>>>>We are using SSL for making sure that the channel is secure.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you plan to implement the X.509 for encryption my guess is that it
>>>>>will
>>>>>be drag on the performance.
>>>>>"Henrik Skak Pedersen" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am working on a product when we are shipping a web service and a
>>>>>>windows
>>>>>>client to several end-customers. The web service should be able to run
>>>>>>either on the inside or on the outside of their firewall. The same CD
>>>>>>are
>>>>>>being sent to all customers, so it is not possible to modify anything
>>>>>>from
>>>>>>customer to customer. The software should run directly after
>>>>>>installation,
>>>>>>without obtaining certificates or anothing else.The clients are
>>>>>>running on
>>>>>>Windows 2000 server and client, Windows XP and Windows Server 2003.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have two demands:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1) All WS requests from the client needs to be authorized by AD. It
>>>>>>should
>>>>>>be possible to log in using the current credentials or by specifying
>>>>>>an user
>>>>>>name/password pair.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>2) All WS requests from the client needs to be encrypted and signed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have looked into X509SecurityToken, KerberosToken and UsernameToken.
>>>>>>But I
>>>>>>just can't see how I solve this the the best way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If I use X.509 for signing and encryption, then I guess that I have to
>>>>>>distribute the same certificate to all customers, which I guess not i
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>smart idea.
>>>>>>I have read that the KerberosToken does not work for Windows 2000.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any recommendations?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Henrik Skak Pedersen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>--
>>>HTH
>>>Regards,
>>>Dilip Krishnan
>>>MCAD, MCSD.net
>>>dilip.krishnan AT apdiya DOT com
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> HTH
> Regards,
> Dilip Krishnan
> MCAD, MCSD.net
> dilip.krishnan AT apdiya DOT com
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