Re: Now that Visual Studio .NET 2005 is released...

Dude, if you want something you need to ask in a polite and friendly manner.

"Zeke" wrote:

> Guess what, Microsoft just removed the 'Beta 2' from the SDK web pages for
> Windows Mobile 5.0 Pocket PC/Smartphone.
>
> It may have been a small, or insignificant, detail to all of you who replied
> to these messages but it was huge to me. Why? Besides myself, I have been
> working with several other developers who have been evaluating the VS2005
> Beta 2, VS2005 Release Candidate 1, and finally the VS2005 RTM. Microsoft,
> correctly in my opinion, warns against the dangers of using 'Beta' software
> on a production machine. Several developers didn't follow the step-by-step
> removal procedures of the VS2005 Beta 2 and were forced to reimage their
> machines. Too bad for them, right? Well, that leaves a very bad taste in
> their mouth and unless an SDK is marked specifically release, they now
> refuse to use it except for evaluation purposes.
>
> Now that the SDK issue is fixed, what about ActiveSync 4.0?
>
> "Chris Tacke, eMVP" <ctacke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OeseQsX5FHA.3136@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Yep. Adding the SDKs (which includes emulators) pushed the package beyond
> > 1 DVD in size. Cost became an issue, and so they were omitted.
> >
> > --
> > Chris Tacke
> > Co-founder
> > OpenNETCF.org
> > Are you using the SDF? Let's do a case study.
> > Email us at d c s @ o p e n n e t c f . c o m
> > http://www.opennetcf.org/donate
> >
> >
> > "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <ptobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT com>
> > wrote in message news:OvYhBdX5FHA.1276@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> That has to do with the amount of space consumed on disk by the
> >> distribution set. The VS.NET guys had a size beyond which the package
> >> could not go and including those SDKs would have put them over. Result:
> >> the SDKs are on the distribution media.
> >>
> >> Paul T.
> >>
> >> "Zeke" <dennis.corpman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:%23asS0JX5FHA.4036@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>I guess that it's all in how you read it. You assume it was released and
> >>>I assume it's still a beta. If it's released then why weren't they
> >>>included with the release of VS2005? VS2005 ships ready to build
> >>>Smartphone CF 1.0, Pocket PC 2003 CF 1.0 & CF 2.0 and Windows CE CF 2.0.
> >>>Why be suspiciously absent on Windows Mobile 5.0 and Smartphone CF 2.0?
> >>>It would be easier to accept if the SDKs were released after the IDE but
> >>>not before.
> >>>
> >>> "Chris Tacke, eMVP" <ctacke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>> news:OqejTyW5FHA.2396@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Right, when it was released, only Beta2 was out for Studio so that's
> >>>> the verbiage. That doesn't mean the SDK is a Beta. And sure I'll
> >>>> guarantee it, for whatever that's worth to you. I don't work for
> >>>> Microsoft, I don't generate their SDKs and I don't maintain their web
> >>>> page. I do know, however, that many people are using that SDK to build
> >>>> ans ship product, the SDK says nothing about being a beta, and I've not
> >>>> heard any plans for an updated release.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Chris Tacke
> >>>> Co-founder
> >>>> OpenNETCF.org
> >>>> Are you using the SDF? Let's do a case study.
> >>>> Email us at d c s @ o p e n n e t c f . c o m
> >>>> http://www.opennetcf.org/donate
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Zeke" <dennis.corpman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>>> news:uB30%23TW5FHA.2888@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>I did go to your link and it specifically says for VS2005 Beta 2.
> >>>>>Nothing has been released by Microsoft that indicates it has been
> >>>>>updated for the release of VS2005.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Will you guarantee a May release of an SDK for VS2005 Beta 2 is 100%
> >>>>> for RTM VS2005?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Will Microsoft just change the verbage on their web page to make it
> >>>>> official?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Chris Tacke, eMVP" <ctacke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:eJQ78LV5FHA.252@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>I sent you a link to the Released WM 5.0 SDK. At the bottom of that
> >>>>>>page is a link to the released Smartphone 5.0 SDK. Not sure what more
> >>>>>>you want. Just becasue it came out before Studio doesn't mean it's not
> >>>>>>"released." The CF was done some time before Studio shipped.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Chris Tacke
> >>>>>> Co-founder
> >>>>>> OpenNETCF.org
> >>>>>> Are you using the SDF? Let's do a case study.
> >>>>>> Email us at d c s @ o p e n n e t c f . c o m
> >>>>>> http://www.opennetcf.org/donate
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "Zeke" <dennis.corpman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:e2VxUsT5FHA.2816@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>> My question was: "When will Microsoft officially release the Windows
> >>>>>>> Mobile 5.0 Pocket PC SDK, Windows Mobile 5.0 Smartphone SDK and
> >>>>>>> ActiveSync 4.0?" That has still to be answered. Visual Studio .NET
> >>>>>>> 2005 requires ActiveSync 4.0 to download and debug on smart devices.
> >>>>>>> Why wasn't ActiveSync 4.0, and the corresponding SDKs, released at
> >>>>>>> the same time? I'd like to use released, and supported, products;
> >>>>>>> not unsupported beta revisions. Does anyone know when these
> >>>>>>> products are planned to be released?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Peter Foot [MVP]" <feedback@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>>>>>> news:uwLOIjK5FHA.4012@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>> The existing WM5.0 SDKs will work with VS RTM. So will the version
> >>>>>>>> of AS4.0 on the MSDN website
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Peter
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Peter Foot
> >>>>>>>> Windows Embedded MVP
> >>>>>>>> www.peterfoot.net | www.inthehand.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "Zeke" <dennis.corpman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>> news:uSDmOYK5FHA.3540@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>>>A Windows Mobile toolkit but it appears that there will be newer
> >>>>>>>>>toolkits for Pocket PC and SmartPhone. They were available for the
> >>>>>>>>>VS2005 Beta 2 and I haven't seen the updates yet.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I have the release bits for VS2005 Professional and ActiveSync 4.0
> >>>>>>>>> wasn't included. Which version did you load?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "Chris Tacke, eMVP" <ctacke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
> >>>>>>>>> message news:%23dObkSK5FHA.2036@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>>>> ActiveSync 4.0 was installed when Studio 05 was installed on my
> >>>>>>>>>> machine.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The Windows Mobile SDK has been out for some time:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=83A52AF2-F524-4EC5-9155-717CBE5D25ED&displaylang=en
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Chris Tacke
> >>>>>>>>>> Co-founder
> >>>>>>>>>> OpenNETCF.org
> >>>>>>>>>> Are you using the SDF? Let's do a case study.
> >>>>>>>>>> Email us at d c s @ o p e n n e t c f . c o m
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.opennetcf.org/donate
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> "Zeke" <dennis.corpman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>> news:O5AQvxJ5FHA.2916@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>>>>> Anyone,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Now that Visual Studio .NET 2005 is released, when will
> >>>>>>>>>>> ActiveSync 4.x, Windows Mobile 5.0 Pocket PC SDK and Windows
> >>>>>>>>>>> Mobile 5.0 Smartphone SDK will be released? I'm an MSDN
> >>>>>>>>>>> Universal subscriber and can only find the betas, not the
> >>>>>>>>>>> release bits.
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