Re: Now that Visual Studio .NET 2005 is released...

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Guess what, Microsoft just removed the 'Beta 2' from the SDK web pages for
Windows Mobile 5.0 Pocket PC/Smartphone.

It may have been a small, or insignificant, detail to all of you who replied
to these messages but it was huge to me. Why? Besides myself, I have been
working with several other developers who have been evaluating the VS2005
Beta 2, VS2005 Release Candidate 1, and finally the VS2005 RTM. Microsoft,
correctly in my opinion, warns against the dangers of using 'Beta' software
on a production machine. Several developers didn't follow the step-by-step
removal procedures of the VS2005 Beta 2 and were forced to reimage their
machines. Too bad for them, right? Well, that leaves a very bad taste in
their mouth and unless an SDK is marked specifically release, they now
refuse to use it except for evaluation purposes.

Now that the SDK issue is fixed, what about ActiveSync 4.0?

"Chris Tacke, eMVP" <ctacke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OeseQsX5FHA.3136@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Yep. Adding the SDKs (which includes emulators) pushed the package beyond
> 1 DVD in size. Cost became an issue, and so they were omitted.
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> Chris Tacke
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> "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <ptobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT com>
> wrote in message news:OvYhBdX5FHA.1276@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> That has to do with the amount of space consumed on disk by the
>> distribution set. The VS.NET guys had a size beyond which the package
>> could not go and including those SDKs would have put them over. Result:
>> the SDKs are on the distribution media.
>>
>> Paul T.
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>> "Zeke" <dennis.corpman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:%23asS0JX5FHA.4036@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>I guess that it's all in how you read it. You assume it was released and
>>>I assume it's still a beta. If it's released then why weren't they
>>>included with the release of VS2005? VS2005 ships ready to build
>>>Smartphone CF 1.0, Pocket PC 2003 CF 1.0 & CF 2.0 and Windows CE CF 2.0.
>>>Why be suspiciously absent on Windows Mobile 5.0 and Smartphone CF 2.0?
>>>It would be easier to accept if the SDKs were released after the IDE but
>>>not before.
>>>
>>> "Chris Tacke, eMVP" <ctacke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:OqejTyW5FHA.2396@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Right, when it was released, only Beta2 was out for Studio so that's
>>>> the verbiage. That doesn't mean the SDK is a Beta. And sure I'll
>>>> guarantee it, for whatever that's worth to you. I don't work for
>>>> Microsoft, I don't generate their SDKs and I don't maintain their web
>>>> page. I do know, however, that many people are using that SDK to build
>>>> ans ship product, the SDK says nothing about being a beta, and I've not
>>>> heard any plans for an updated release.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Chris Tacke
>>>> Co-founder
>>>> OpenNETCF.org
>>>> Are you using the SDF? Let's do a case study.
>>>> Email us at d c s @ o p e n n e t c f . c o m
>>>> http://www.opennetcf.org/donate
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>>>>
>>>> "Zeke" <dennis.corpman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:uB30%23TW5FHA.2888@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>I did go to your link and it specifically says for VS2005 Beta 2.
>>>>>Nothing has been released by Microsoft that indicates it has been
>>>>>updated for the release of VS2005.
>>>>>
>>>>> Will you guarantee a May release of an SDK for VS2005 Beta 2 is 100%
>>>>> for RTM VS2005?
>>>>>
>>>>> Will Microsoft just change the verbage on their web page to make it
>>>>> official?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Chris Tacke, eMVP" <ctacke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eJQ78LV5FHA.252@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>I sent you a link to the Released WM 5.0 SDK. At the bottom of that
>>>>>>page is a link to the released Smartphone 5.0 SDK. Not sure what more
>>>>>>you want. Just becasue it came out before Studio doesn't mean it's not
>>>>>>"released." The CF was done some time before Studio shipped.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Chris Tacke
>>>>>> Co-founder
>>>>>> OpenNETCF.org
>>>>>> Are you using the SDF? Let's do a case study.
>>>>>> Email us at d c s @ o p e n n e t c f . c o m
>>>>>> http://www.opennetcf.org/donate
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Zeke" <dennis.corpman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:e2VxUsT5FHA.2816@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> My question was: "When will Microsoft officially release the Windows
>>>>>>> Mobile 5.0 Pocket PC SDK, Windows Mobile 5.0 Smartphone SDK and
>>>>>>> ActiveSync 4.0?" That has still to be answered. Visual Studio .NET
>>>>>>> 2005 requires ActiveSync 4.0 to download and debug on smart devices.
>>>>>>> Why wasn't ActiveSync 4.0, and the corresponding SDKs, released at
>>>>>>> the same time? I'd like to use released, and supported, products;
>>>>>>> not unsupported beta revisions. Does anyone know when these
>>>>>>> products are planned to be released?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Peter Foot [MVP]" <feedback@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:uwLOIjK5FHA.4012@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> The existing WM5.0 SDKs will work with VS RTM. So will the version
>>>>>>>> of AS4.0 on the MSDN website
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Peter Foot
>>>>>>>> Windows Embedded MVP
>>>>>>>> www.peterfoot.net | www.inthehand.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Zeke" <dennis.corpman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:uSDmOYK5FHA.3540@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>A Windows Mobile toolkit but it appears that there will be newer
>>>>>>>>>toolkits for Pocket PC and SmartPhone. They were available for the
>>>>>>>>>VS2005 Beta 2 and I haven't seen the updates yet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have the release bits for VS2005 Professional and ActiveSync 4.0
>>>>>>>>> wasn't included. Which version did you load?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Chris Tacke, eMVP" <ctacke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> message news:%23dObkSK5FHA.2036@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> ActiveSync 4.0 was installed when Studio 05 was installed on my
>>>>>>>>>> machine.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Windows Mobile SDK has been out for some time:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=83A52AF2-F524-4EC5-9155-717CBE5D25ED&displaylang=en
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Chris Tacke
>>>>>>>>>> Co-founder
>>>>>>>>>> OpenNETCF.org
>>>>>>>>>> Are you using the SDF? Let's do a case study.
>>>>>>>>>> Email us at d c s @ o p e n n e t c f . c o m
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.opennetcf.org/donate
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Zeke" <dennis.corpman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:O5AQvxJ5FHA.2916@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now that Visual Studio .NET 2005 is released, when will
>>>>>>>>>>> ActiveSync 4.x, Windows Mobile 5.0 Pocket PC SDK and Windows
>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile 5.0 Smartphone SDK will be released? I'm an MSDN
>>>>>>>>>>> Universal subscriber and can only find the betas, not the
>>>>>>>>>>> release bits.
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