Re: WiFi Authentication Options
- From: "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <ptobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT com>
- Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:46:47 -0700
There are some docs in the Windows CE 5 help (with Platform Builder), that
talk about EAP extensions. It seemed to me that the documentation of what
was going on was substantially bigger in 5 than in 4.2. The 4.2 docs are
pretty much of the glossary type (you click on Wireless Network Client
Configuration and you get one paragraph telling you what they mean by that
and nothing else). I still don't see a 'how to control when/how eap
parameters are entered', but there's a better chance that something is
there, I think.
I'm not aware of a page that talks about what has actually changed in the
docs or about what extra source code might be available for you. However, a
quick search in the 5.0 docs ("replace netui"), shows that there is a lot
more information on replacing, customizing the NetUI component for your
platform, and that's pretty much what you're thinking about. Maybe something
is there which talks about alternate methods of entering EAP parameters.
Those pieces of the 5.0 help are also in MSDN.
Paul T.
"Jared Miniman" <nothx@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%238P0tHWiFHA.3596@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Paul,
>
> I'm trying to find an MSDN link that explains how the EAP developer story
> has changed with CE 5.0. Do you know of any resources that discuss this?
> I'd love to get management *seriously* thinking about going to CE 5.0.
>
> --jsm NG*
>
> "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <ptobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT com>
> wrote in message news:%23VL$ZFViFHA.3936@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> What version of Windows CE are you targeting? It seems like the story
>> provided by MS for replacing the various network UIs and the
>> documentation for EAP has improved a lot with CE 5.
>>
>> I'll take a look when I have some time, but you might try connecting and
>> disconnecting via the OpenNETCF API for a couple of limited cases. For
>> example, maybe before your application takes over each unit is
>> preconfigured for the list of APs to which it can connect. In that case,
>> you only have to worry about *reconnecting* to a preferred AP, which
>> shouldn't require as much user interaction.
>>
>> If that's not a fair assumption, you can dive in and look at the EAP
>> fields in some of the WZC structures in native code. I noticed them as I
>> went by while adding support for enumerating the preferred AP list in the
>> last couple of days.
>>
>> Paul T.
>>
>> "Jared Miniman" <nothx@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:Oe4sM8MiFHA.3336@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> The problem is yes, we must be the front end, and unless we let the MSFT
>>> Zero Config dialog pop up in front of our application (which we refuse),
>>> we must resort to window sniffing to SetText on the various fields (user
>>> name, password, domain) and to hit submit.
>>>
>>> As I understand it, at least on a CE device, the ONLY component that
>>> receives these handshake messages is the Zero Config tool, unless you
>>> replace it with a third party product. Which we might have to.
>>>
>>> --jsm NG*
>>>
>>>
>>> "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <ptobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT com>
>>> wrote in message news:enoTs08hFHA.3288@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>I think that you should be able to use PEAP with OpenNETCF's .Net
>>>>namespace classes, if you can't just let the regular WZC interface be
>>>>used. Are you restricted to being the front-most and only accessible
>>>>application?
>>>>
>>>> I guess I don't feel like I understand what the problem is: the OS
>>>> supports PEAP (with the Cisco 352 card), OpenNETCF can probably help
>>>> you associate with a given SSID, if you need to do that, etc.
>>>>
>>>> WEP works fine. I don't know about rock-solid, at least from a
>>>> security perspective, but it works and it stops casual intruders from
>>>> getting in.
>>>>
>>>> Paul T.
>>>>
>>>> "Jared Miniman" <nothx@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:uXSZjp7hFHA.1464@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm working on a government project and we originally got a
>>>>> requirement to use PEAP to authenticate devices to a wireless network.
>>>>> The problem is that these are Windows CE devices, and Microsoft has
>>>>> not released APIs to communicate with the "Zero Configuration
>>>>> Utility", the little pop-up that asks you for user name, password, and
>>>>> domain upon finding an AP that is in your list of preferred APs. So
>>>>> basically, without resorting to a third party tool, PEAP on a Windows
>>>>> CE device must abide by Microsoft's rules, or a hack must be used to
>>>>> sniff for messages coming from that Zero Config window. Ick!
>>>>>
>>>>> Outside of the various EAP flavors, what security options have you all
>>>>> discussed for WiFi authentication? Are there any extentions to WEP
>>>>> (like WPA AES/WPA2) that are considered pretty rock solid and handled
>>>>> properly by Windows CE/Pocket PC?
>>>>>
>>>>> --jsm NG*
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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