Re: How does Microsoft expect developers/designers to make stuff work for everyone?
- From: "Nathan Sokalski" <njsokalski@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:40:25 -0500
I would like to point out that this is NOT pretty much the same situation as
FireFox 1.5 and 2.0. The difference is that when FireFox moved from 1.5 to
2.0, it made fixes and improvements. When Internet Explorer moved from 6.0
to 7.0, it made major changes, not just small changes such as security fixes
and minor bugs. IE7 completely changed the way it renders pages, because it
now follows the W3C standards so much more closely. As happy as I am that
they are now following more standards, it doesn't change the fact that
people will still be using IE6 for a while, so we have to test in both. With
version changes such as when IE went from 5.5 to 6.0, or when FireFox went
from 1.5 to 2.0, if the rendering changed at all it was probably adding
support for something (such as CSS) or correcting a bug. When adding support
for something, it won't cause existing pages to look different. When
correcting a bug, it probably means your page didn't work correctly
beforehand anyway. If the "bug" is referring to making a feature follow the
standards correctly, they have never changed this many at the same time, and
if I remember correctly, we were able to run IE 5.5 and 6.0 side by side
anyway.
I would also like to comment on the following:
Going back to the car analogy, would you have your car repaired by someone
who couldn't afford a decent set of tools to do the job properly...?
No, I wouldn't. However, Microsoft is supposed to want people to learn and
like their software. Regardless of what universities and schools try to say,
most learning is done through experience. I don't think anyone's employer is
going to let them spend the weekend in the office practicing coding, and the
people who really need to learn this stuff are the college students and
recent graduates majoring in it. I am a graduate from Fall 2006, and work
from home. If they want this generation of developers and designers to be
good with IE7, they better give us a way to practice without forcing us to
get rid of IE6! If I could use IE7 without needing to worry about how sites
I visit for personal reasons would look, I would have gotten it the day it
was released, but they decided to put us in this situation instead.
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Nathan Sokalski
njsokalski@xxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.nathansokalski.com/
"Mark Rae" <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Corey B" <corey.burnett@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Wow. To me, that reply is a perfect example of "Microsoft
brainwashing". I don't want to be a MS basher because I really like a
lot of the stuff they put out. However, we all seem to be way too
willing to swallow whatever MS says. If they say we have to install a
second copy of the OS just to test a browser - are we just supposed to
say "oh well, guess I have to". No. We complain about it and maybe
they will fix it. Or if not, we move to a different browser. Just
because they can produce a workaround doesn't mean we have to accept
it.
LOL! I really think you're in the wrong business or, at least, haven't had
much exposure to business software.
Not being able to run different versions of the same application on the
same operating system really is nothing new, especially if that operating
system is Windows.
Your "solution" of moving to a different browser won't get you very far
either - it's pretty much the same situation for FireFox 1.5.x and 2.0.x.
Of course, people have found ways of almost getting round this:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2006-28,GGLG:en&q=firefox+1%2e5+2%2e0+side+by+side
but they amount to little more than deinstalling one version and
reinstalling the other.
Going back to the car analogy, would you have your car repaired by someone
who couldn't afford a decent set of tools to do the job properly...?
.
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