Re: how can you use mshtml DOM object to grab rendered asp.net page?

It isn't an absolute lack of understanding, Jim. I wrote apps in VB6 that
used the webbrowser control to work all sorts of magic. I've designed web
pages that had to perform all kinds of tricks (based on customer requests)
and for a while I was adept at javascript just out of necessity (have since
forgotten most of it due to lack of use).

I understand HTML. I understand VB. I even understand ASP 2.0. I'm just
having problems with asp.net.

And while my lack of familiarity with asp.net is certainly a hindrance, it
isn't just that. There really ARE functional problems here. Again, the
asp.net security model seems to automatically assume Internet deployment,
and that cripples my 100% intranet solution. IMO this is a flaw in
Microsoft's philosphy. I believe a developer should be able to inform the
IDE that he is coding for a purely intranet environ and thus be rewarded
with expanded capabilities; conversely, I agree with the decision to lock
down many aspects of Internet apps.

Note that I can't even get IIS to run an aspx web page on my laptop, and
Microsoft's KB solution to this known issue did not work. Neither has ANY
recommended solution. That's just one of many, many frustrations
encountered.

I *am* understanding more and more, though, and very quickly. The more I
understand, however, the more disillusioned I become-- mainly due to the
restrictions mentioned above or the very poor (and often conflicting)
documentation I have encountered. As for asp.net books, I have several,
including Dino's, and not one has been any help whatsoever for the
application in question. I would dearly love to see a book that
specifically addressed developing and deploying 100% intranet solutions
using asp.net/vb.net. I'd pay good money for such a thing... but I'm not
holding my breath. I'm utterly amazed at the dearth of info on this
subject. The technology *should* lend itself very well to corporate
intranets but it seems MS has relegated that use to the backburner...

Randall Arnold

"Jim Cheshire" <noemail@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Randall Arnold wrote:
>>
>> And FYI, it was never my intention to design myself into a corner: I
>> had a mandate to modernize a VB6 app and provide it with various
>> publishing (export) options, assumed asp.net was the way to go, and
>> have now come to the conclusion asp.net is far too immature,
>> restrictive and poorly supported despite the hype from Microsoft. IMO, I
>> should not have to jump through hoops or worry about security
>> restrictions when my environment is 100% intranet.
>>
>
> Randall,
>
> I think your problem is that you have undertaken a project that requires
> you to have an understanding of HTTP applications and the restrictions
> imposed on them, and because your experience is not in this area, you are
> becoming frustrated. That happens to plenty of people. While it might be
> tempting to blame the technology, I think doing so in this case is a
> mistake.
>
> Yours is an issue that doesn't lend itself to resolution on a newsgroup
> because your knowledge of the technology involved is limited. The best
> recommendation one could give you is to purchase a book on ASP.NET (Dino
> Esposito's books are excellent) and learn what you need to know to
> competently develop this application. As you head down that road, I'm sure
> that people here will be glad to help you.
>
> --
> Jim Cheshire
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