Re: More than One
- From: "Thom Little" <thom@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 08:41:33 -0500
I backed away from it slightly. I have a sandbox server and can put an
application in the root and remove it and successfully replace it with
another.
I have not got a second application to run in a subdirectory yet.
It is very easy to put the webspace in a "hung" state. One way is to have
an application in the root and then publish a second application to the
root. This almost always hangs the webspace. You must delete the files,
wait a bit, and then publish the second website in order to avoid the
problem.
I do not have administrator privilege on the remote server and have to wait
for the kindness of others to do the reset. Perhaps I can get administrator
privilege limited to this webspace?
I have been investigating master pages. It seems that the master page MUST
be in the root of the website. This seems to say that I can't have
subdirectories with their own master page.
My current assessment is that the environment is quire fragile.
--
-- Thom Little -- www.tlanet.net -- Thom Little Associates, Ltd.
--
"Steven Cheng[MSFT]" <stcheng@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Hi Thom,
>
> Any further progress on this or does those thing in my last reply also
> helps a little?
> If still anything else we can help, please feel free to post here.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steven Cheng
> Microsoft Online Support
>
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> | Thanks for your response Thom,
> |
> | For common ASP.NET web application(1.1 or 2.0), it's still ok that we
> | deploy the application by simply copy the page files to the target
> virtual
> | directory and assemblies to the target bin folder (if strong-named
> assembly
> | , we need to put them into GAC.....).
> |
> | I am hoping to have a similar arrangement with 2.0 where there will 32
> | subdirectories from the root and each will be a separate customer with
> | separate access controls.
> | ==============================
> | I think it possible, since we can just create 32 separate application
> | virtual directory under the root webspace) and each application virtual
> | directory can has its own virtual directory based IIS
> | setting.....(authentication mode...... )
> |
> |
> |
> | One difference that I noticed and am still trying to work through is
> that
> | there is no namespace statement in ASP.NET 2.0 applications and there is
> in
> | ASP.NET 1.1 applications. Perhaps this is what was providing the nice
> | segregation of applications in 1.1?
> | ===============================
> | No, this won't affect the isolation of each asp.net web application.
> | No-namespace in asp.net 2.0 is because all the web page classes
> | or source files in (app_code folder) are dynamically compiled at
> runtime,
> | so they will be given a runtime generated internal namespace.... this
> not
> | controled by us. And for each web application,their assemblies will be
> | loaded into their own AppDomain so classes in differernt application
> won't
> | conflict with those in other application.....
> |
> | Thanks,
> |
> | Steven Cheng
> | Microsoft Online Support
> |
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> | | Thank you for the information. I am still working my way through it.
> | |
> | | In pre-ASP and ASP 3 I worked with a customer by developing a website
> on
> | my
> | | remote space (currently containing my applications and 37 customer
> | | applications that have limited access. When the customer is happy
> with
> | the
> | | result I simply copy the "space" from my remote server to the root of
> | their
> | | remote server "webspace" and it is published to the world.
> | |
> | | I am hoping to have a similar arrangement with 2.0 where there will
> 32
> | | subdirectories from the root and each will be a separate customer with
> | | separate access controls.
> | |
> | | One difference that I noticed and am still trying to work through is
> that
> | | there is no namespace statement in ASP.NET 2.0 applications and there
> is
> | in
> | | ASP.NET 1.1 applications. Perhaps this is what was providing the nice
> | | segregation of applications in 1.1?
> | |
> | | --
> | | -- Thom Little -- www.tlanet.net -- Thom Little Associates, Ltd.
> | | --
> | |
> | | "Steven Cheng[MSFT]" <stcheng@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> | | news:UfT9XnSBGHA.2560@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | | > Hi Thom,
> | | >
> | | > Welcome.
> | | > As for ASP.NET 2.0 web application hosting in IIS website, it has
> the
> | same
> | | > model as ASP.NET 1.1. Each asp.net web application should reside in
> a
> | | > single virtual directory which is configured as "Application"(have
> | | > application name....). And for a single asp.net application, it can
> | | > contains other sub dirs(normal virutal dir ,not application dir)
> which
> | | > contains pages or other static resources... , however, all the
> | assemblies
> | | > should be put in the private "bin" dir of the Application's root
> | | > directory(must...).
> | | >
> | | > Also, when hosting multiple asp.net web application, and those
> | | > applications's diretory has sub/children hierarchy, we need to pay
> | | > attention for somethings:
> | | >
> | | > 1. For web.config, each application's runtime configuration
> collection
> | are
> | | > calculated from the whole hierarchy from its own web.config , to sub
> | | > virtual dir's web.config or IIS site root's web.config(if exists)
> and
> | | > finally, global web.config(or machine.config....). So if we defined
> some
> | | > application specific data in the super application's web.config,
> it'll
> | be
> | | > inherited in sub application....
> | | >
> | | > /siteroot
> | | > /bin
> | | > page files....
> | | > web.config
> | | >
> | | >
> | | > /superwebapp
> | | > /bin
> | | > super web app pages.....
> | | > web.config
> | | >
> | | >
> | | > /sub app
> | | > /bin
> | | > sub app pages....
> | | > web.conifg
> | | >
> | | >
> | | >
> | | > 2. For some component (such as http handler or httpModule . or other
> | | > assembly related setting ) setting in web.config, it'll require we
> | specify
> | | > the assembly name.... , in such cases, we need to pay more
> attention,
> | | > since
> | | > the sub applcation will inherit these setting, so at runtime, the
> sub
> | | > application will try looking for those assemblies in their own
> private
> | | > "bin" folder rather than super application's "bin" dir, this is a
> common
> | | > problems ......
> | | >
> | | > So generally, we suggest deploy separate applications (haven't
> | particular
> | | > super/children relationship) in separate virtual directory path
> .....
> | | > If we do have to deploy different applications in virtual directorys
> | that
> | | > have parent/child structure, we need to pay attention to the above
> | things
> | | > I
> | | > mentioned....
> | | >
> | | > Here are some msdn reference discussing about ASP.NET web
> configuration
> | | > structure/hierarchy and configuration ASP.NET application in IIS:
> | | >
> | | > #ASP.NET Configuration File Hierarchy and Inheritance
> | | > http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms178685.aspx
> | | >
> | | > #ASP.NET and IIS Configuration
> | | > http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms178477(en-US,VS.80).aspx
> | | >
> | | > Hope helps. Thanks,
> | | >
> | | > Steven Cheng
> | | > Microsoft Online Support
> | | >
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> | | > | From: "Thom Little" <thom@xxxxxxxxxx>
> | | > | Subject: More than One
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> | | > | Visual Studio 2003 / .NET Framework 1.1 I could create multiple
> web
> | | > | applications. In the root of a remote webspace I could have a
> single
> | | > /bin
> | | > | directory and a single web.config file.
> | | > |
> | | > | I would then FTP (using a third-party FTP program) the .aspx files
> in
> | | > any
> | | > of
> | | > | the applications to any directory in the webspace. I would also
> FTP
> | all
> | | > the
> | | > | .dll files to the single /bin directory in the root.
> | | > |
> | | > | Visual Studio 2005 / .NET Framework 2.0 does not seem to support
> | | > multiple
> | | > | independent applications in the same webspace
> | | > |
> | | > | How can I publish multiple applications (that are built in
> separate
> | | > | unconnected projects) in the same webspace?
> | | > |
> | | > | Is there a document that describes this procedure that I can
> access?
> | | > |
> | | > | --
> | | > | -- Thom Little -- www.tlanet.net -- Thom Little Associates,
> Ltd.
> | | > | --
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