Re: WebControl
- From: "Patrick.O.Ige" <patrickige@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 00:47:12 +1100
Welcome to ASP.NET Henry.
You should thank Mr N and Kevin.
Patrick
"Kevin Spencer" <kevin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uvppEOX4FHA.1416@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > I have made the switch now, and I'm probably not going back as there are
> > far more jobs out there for ASP.NET than there are for Windows Forms
> > Applications as far as I can tell.
>
> I think you're right on that point, Mr. N.
>
> As for Smart devices and Mobile apps, I think the infrastructure needs a
bit
> more beefing up, and then we'll see a massive growth in that market.
>
> --
> HTH,
>
> Kevin Spencer
> Microsoft MVP
> .Net Developer
> A watched clock never boils.
>
> "Mr Newbie" <here@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OPY3E5W4FHA.820@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Well said !
> >
> > I have made the switch now, and I'm probably not going back as there are
> > far more jobs out there for ASP.NET than there are for Windows Forms
> > Applications as far as I can tell.
> >
> > I thought Smart Applications would bite into the web based stuff but it
> > does not seem to have made the inroads we thought it would. Mobile Smart
> > Apps might be the exception in time.
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards
> >
> > The Inimitable Mr Newbie º¿º
> >
> >
> > "Kevin Spencer" <kevin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:%23kqz1jW4FHA.3400@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Yes, it's difficult. The major differences are due to several things:
> >>
> >> 1. A Windows Form operates continuously in a single area of memory for
> >> the lifetime of the application. A Web Page operates across a TCP/IP
> >> network, where the client-side browser and the server don't share any
> >> memory in common, but can only pass messages back and forth. In
addition,
> >> as HTTP is stateless, each Request re-creates the Page class. Each
> >> instance of the Page class is brand-new, like shutting down your
Windows
> >> Form and restarting it.
> >>
> >> 2. A Windows Form has persistent memory. HTTP, on the other hand, is
> >> stateless. Each Request/Response happens without any memory of any
> >> Request/Response that previously happened. It's like 2 senile men
trying
> >> to carry on a conversation. Neither one can remember the last thing the
> >> other said. So, ASP.Net has to resort to tricks to emulate some form of
> >> continuity of memory. The 2 senile men pass notes back and forth to
> >> remind each other of the last thing they said. This is done via a
> >> combination of the available resources: Cookies, hidden form fields,
> >> temporary server memory storage in Session, QueryStrings, etc.
> >>
> >> 3. Any network application works via network messaging; in the case of
> >> ASP.Net, it is HTTP across a TCP/IP network. Therefore, there is no
> >> guarantee that the data sent by either side will make it to the other,
or
> >> that it will make it intact.
> >>
> >> 4. When a user using a Windows Forms app is done, he closes it, freeing
> >> up memory. An ASP.Net application is a service that must serve many
users
> >> at any given time, and doesn't shut down unless there are no users, and
a
> >> sufficient amount of time has passed. Therefore, there is no way for a
> >> user to tell the server to de-allocate any memory associated with his
> >> Session. The server waits for a Request for about 20 minutes, and if
the
> >> user has not made one, shuts down that client Session all by itself.
> >> Otherwise, every user would accumulate more and more memory on the
> >> server, and create a very fast memory leak.
> >>
> >> Knowing all of this, you have 2 choices. You can go back to the nice,
> >> safe, and relatively easy sandbox of Windows Form programming
(something
> >> most of us dream about from time to time!), or you can accept the
> >> challenge, and move forward with ASP.Net.
> >>
> >> --
> >> HTH,
> >>
> >> Kevin Spencer
> >> Microsoft MVP
> >> .Net Developer
> >> A watched clock never boils.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Henrry Pires" <Nelson@Don'tuse.com> wrote in message
> >> news:OHfdy%23U4FHA.3948@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Well I'm entering in the ASP.Net world, I come from windows forms
that's
> >>> why i find so hard ASP
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Programing client side and server side some times is confuse. And
takes
> >>> a lot of work to do some kind of simple things.
> >>>
> >>> :-(
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> "Mr Newbie" <here@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>> news:%23nOip0U4FHA.696@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> This is ASP.NET , not ASP. It's not hard, it's just different, and
> >>>> sometimes it can be overwhelming like many new things. But if you
stick
> >>>> with it, you will be ok.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Best Regards
> >>>>
> >>>> The Inimitable Mr Newbie º¿º
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Henrry Pires" <Nelson@Don'tuse.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:%23ija7JU4FHA.4076@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>> Why everythingin ASP is so hard?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Mr Newbie" <here@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:%2338XWST4FHA.1396@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> If you are asking how to make Web User Controls, then its simple.
> >>>>>> Add a New Item to your project and choose the Web User Control
> >>>>>> Template. Add your controls to the design area and there you go.
> >>>>>> There are a few things to watch out for, but you should do some
> >>>>>> reading for that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If however, you are referring to a Web Custom Control which is
> >>>>>> rendered ( You are in complete control of the visual UI ) then you
> >>>>>> need to create one of those and override the Render member function
> >>>>>> of the base class. These controls are far more tricky to get right
> >>>>>> than a simple Web User Control because you have to do most of the
> >>>>>> work in the code.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I suggest you google the subject up and do some reading first and
> >>>>>> then come back with specific questions as asking generalised
> >>>>>> questions like you have tend to illicit little in the way of
replies,
> >>>>>> because you are almost asking someone to give you a complete
tutorial
> >>>>>> on the subject.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> However, I hope that I have been of some help to you in at least
> >>>>>> pointing you in the right direction, Im a novice myself and know
> >>>>>> little about the subject. Im probably way down low on the learning
> >>>>>> curve but Im striving each day to learn more.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Best Regards
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Inimitable Mr Newbie º¿º
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "Henrry Pires" <Nelson@Don'tuse.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:uDembwS4FHA.1184@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>> Hello to all
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm trying to make a webcontrol. I need to put on it 4 butons and
> >>>>>>> one label but i have no idia how to make it. I already wrote some
> >>>>>>> windowsformrs controls and it is very diferent from webcontrols.
Can
> >>>>>>> any one give me an idia how to make it?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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