Re: There has to be a better way to develop web applications.

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> Yes, do away with HTML, XHTML, JavaScript, CSS and make it --
>
> CLD - Common Language Development, CLF - Common Language Framework

Dude!

....

Dude!!

I hate to tell you this, but Microsoft didn't create the Internet (as we all
know, Al Gore did). Neither did Microsoft create HTML, XHTML, JavaScript,
CSS, HTTP, or any of that stuff that makes web pages what they are.

What Microsoft created was ASP.Net, which is a SERVER-SIDE technology for
working with all that stuff that Microsoft did NOT create.

Microsoft is not the God of the Intenet. If they were, I'm sure it would
have ended up much simpler to work with than it is. They are simply dealing
with it. I would suggest you do the same.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
The sun never sets on
the Kingdom of Heaven

"Rob R. Ainscough" <robains@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:edRUWh0hFHA.3064@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> If you understood what I was saying, you'd realize it is not a bitch
> session.
>
> Yes, do away with HTML, XHTML, JavaScript, CSS and make it --
>
> CLD - Common Language Development, CLF - Common Language Framework
>
> If a huge base of HTML, XHTML, JavaScript, CSS code needs to be ported,
> build a very good migration tool that will generate CLD (and do it right).
>
> Make CLD syntatically easy to follow/read and provide an rich intelligent
> IDE environment that has markers that work beyond a single module, provide
> more sophisticated lookup linking, improve help link system and provide
> MUCH more real world code samples in the help system. Provide managed and
> unmanaged connection options, provide a real debugger (similar in power to
> VB6 debugger). Just make life easier for the developer so we can get more
> done, higher quality, and in less time.
>
> That would be a start -- something .NET should have been but failed. And
> don't start on "cross-platform" -- make that come later as "needed" (if
> needed at all)? I mean that is the way it stands right now, you don't see
> many folks doing ASP.NET with .NET Framework development on Unix servers.
> This is not a debate about which is better, it is a reality of the
> situation. Don't build an enormous amount of cross-platform
> compatibility/flexibilty that is going to be used by <2% of dev community.
>
> Rob.
>
> Rob.
>
>
> "Juan T. Llibre" <nomailreplies@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uuWLbB0hFHA.3692@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> re:
>>>I don't know, don't care
>>
>> Yup, that sums up your stance.
>>
>> You are confirming that you'd rather complain,
>> than work towards getting a better product.
>>
>> Do you have *anything* positive to offer ?
>> Like, maybe, a suggestion or two ?
>>
>> Or, as is apparent, do you prefer to bitch
>> without offering any suggestions for improvement ?
>>
>> You don't offer any alternatives,
>> and you don't offer any suggestions for improvement.
>>
>> You just bitch. That doesn't get us anywhere.
>>
>>
>>
>> Juan T. Llibre
>> ASP.NET MVP
>> http://asp.net.do/foros/
>> Foros de ASP.NET en Español
>> Ven, y hablemos de ASP.NET...
>> ======================
>>
>> "Rob R. Ainscough" <robains@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:%23W4uJkzhFHA.4048@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Why are you intent on comparisons? I'm not, so why are you? Who does
>>> it better, I don't know, don't care -- I just want the insanity of
>>> language of the day to be over so we can concentrate on design and
>>> produce results and less of "oh yeah, can't do that with ASP.NET so ya
>>> have to do some JavaScript and do a little HTML setup work and...".
>>>
>>> So I take it you agree with the obvious problem in efficiency? yes or
>>> no?
>>>
>>> Against choice? You on planet earth -- this ain't the business of pic
>>> your favorite iPod color -- stay within context.
>>>
>>> You sound like a Microsoft troll -- get over your loyality already.
>>
>>> "Juan T. Llibre" <nomailreplies@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:OMD884yhFHA.1044@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> re:
>>>>> listing 90 languages on my resume
>>>>
>>>> I see you're against choice.
>>>>
>>>> Do you understand the difference between
>>>> *choice* of languages and learning all of them ?
>>>>
>>>> re:
>>>>> MS have the resources, not I -- and we should be there by now
>>>>
>>>> OK, if not MS, then who ? Who is doing a better job than MS ?
>>>> Who is "there by now" ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Juan T. Llibre
>>>> ASP.NET MVP
>>>> http://asp.net.do/foros/
>>>> Foros de ASP.NET en Español
>>>> Ven, y hablemos de ASP.NET...
>>>> ======================
>>>>
>>>> "Rob R. Ainscough" <robains@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:OjAH9xyhFHA.2904@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>
>>>>> Because, learning the language of the day to accomplish the same tasks
>>>>> over and over is NOT efficient -- that's why. Like I said, listing 90
>>>>> languages on my resume is more of an embarrassment than an
>>>>> accomplishment. The concepts don't change, only the syntax and all
>>>>> the restrictions and limitations that go with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> MS have the resources, not I -- and we should be there by now -- but
>>>>> as it stands today, we're a good 5-10 years away.
>>>>>
>>>>> No one is forcing you to post a response -- so what is your point??
>>>>> So what is your point? Don't complain, don't make waves, just accept
>>>>> it -- is that how you think -- be a sheep, baaa baaa baaa
>>>>>
>>>>> Rob.
>>>>
>>>>> "Mark Rae" <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ucDDkUyhFHA.4000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> "Rob R. Ainscough" <robains@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uwEe2LxhFHA.328@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There has got to be a better way?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So why don't you develop it, smart-arse, instead of whinging because
>>>>>> you're having to do some learning...?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No-one's forcing you to use .NET.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No-one's forcing you to write a single line of code.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No-one's forcing you even to own a PC.
>>>>
>>>>
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