Re: There has to be a better way to develop web applications.

If you understood what I was saying, you'd realize it is not a bitch
session.

Yes, do away with HTML, XHTML, JavaScript, CSS and make it --

CLD - Common Language Development, CLF - Common Language Framework

If a huge base of HTML, XHTML, JavaScript, CSS code needs to be ported,
build a very good migration tool that will generate CLD (and do it right).

Make CLD syntatically easy to follow/read and provide an rich intelligent
IDE environment that has markers that work beyond a single module, provide
more sophisticated lookup linking, improve help link system and provide MUCH
more real world code samples in the help system. Provide managed and
unmanaged connection options, provide a real debugger (similar in power to
VB6 debugger). Just make life easier for the developer so we can get more
done, higher quality, and in less time.

That would be a start -- something .NET should have been but failed. And
don't start on "cross-platform" -- make that come later as "needed" (if
needed at all)? I mean that is the way it stands right now, you don't see
many folks doing ASP.NET with .NET Framework development on Unix servers.
This is not a debate about which is better, it is a reality of the
situation. Don't build an enormous amount of cross-platform
compatibility/flexibilty that is going to be used by <2% of dev community.

Rob.

Rob.


"Juan T. Llibre" <nomailreplies@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uuWLbB0hFHA.3692@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> re:
>>I don't know, don't care
>
> Yup, that sums up your stance.
>
> You are confirming that you'd rather complain,
> than work towards getting a better product.
>
> Do you have *anything* positive to offer ?
> Like, maybe, a suggestion or two ?
>
> Or, as is apparent, do you prefer to bitch
> without offering any suggestions for improvement ?
>
> You don't offer any alternatives,
> and you don't offer any suggestions for improvement.
>
> You just bitch. That doesn't get us anywhere.
>
>
>
> Juan T. Llibre
> ASP.NET MVP
> http://asp.net.do/foros/
> Foros de ASP.NET en Español
> Ven, y hablemos de ASP.NET...
> ======================
>
> "Rob R. Ainscough" <robains@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23W4uJkzhFHA.4048@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Why are you intent on comparisons? I'm not, so why are you? Who does it
>> better, I don't know, don't care -- I just want the insanity of language
>> of the day to be over so we can concentrate on design and produce results
>> and less of "oh yeah, can't do that with ASP.NET so ya have to do some
>> JavaScript and do a little HTML setup work and...".
>>
>> So I take it you agree with the obvious problem in efficiency? yes or
>> no?
>>
>> Against choice? You on planet earth -- this ain't the business of pic
>> your favorite iPod color -- stay within context.
>>
>> You sound like a Microsoft troll -- get over your loyality already.
>
>> "Juan T. Llibre" <nomailreplies@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:OMD884yhFHA.1044@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> re:
>>>> listing 90 languages on my resume
>>>
>>> I see you're against choice.
>>>
>>> Do you understand the difference between
>>> *choice* of languages and learning all of them ?
>>>
>>> re:
>>>> MS have the resources, not I -- and we should be there by now
>>>
>>> OK, if not MS, then who ? Who is doing a better job than MS ?
>>> Who is "there by now" ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Juan T. Llibre
>>> ASP.NET MVP
>>> http://asp.net.do/foros/
>>> Foros de ASP.NET en Español
>>> Ven, y hablemos de ASP.NET...
>>> ======================
>>>
>>> "Rob R. Ainscough" <robains@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:OjAH9xyhFHA.2904@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Mark,
>>>>
>>>> Because, learning the language of the day to accomplish the same tasks
>>>> over and over is NOT efficient -- that's why. Like I said, listing 90
>>>> languages on my resume is more of an embarrassment than an
>>>> accomplishment. The concepts don't change, only the syntax and all the
>>>> restrictions and limitations that go with it.
>>>>
>>>> MS have the resources, not I -- and we should be there by now -- but as
>>>> it stands today, we're a good 5-10 years away.
>>>>
>>>> No one is forcing you to post a response -- so what is your point?? So
>>>> what is your point? Don't complain, don't make waves, just accept
>>>> it -- is that how you think -- be a sheep, baaa baaa baaa
>>>>
>>>> Rob.
>>>
>>>> "Mark Rae" <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:ucDDkUyhFHA.4000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> "Rob R. Ainscough" <robains@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uwEe2LxhFHA.328@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>> There has got to be a better way?
>>>>>
>>>>> So why don't you develop it, smart-arse, instead of whinging because
>>>>> you're having to do some learning...?
>>>>>
>>>>> No-one's forcing you to use .NET.
>>>>>
>>>>> No-one's forcing you to write a single line of code.
>>>>>
>>>>> No-one's forcing you even to own a PC.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


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