Re: ViewState vs Session

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:24:21 -0400, "Kevin Spencer"
<kevin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>> Whatsamatter, Kevin, get up on the wrong side of the bed today? Wife
>> leave you? IRS audit? What?
>
>Not at all. Programming is a serious discipline, and an exact science.

Uhhh... no it's not. I suppose it *can* be, under certain
circumstances. Like, maybe writing the code that runs the Space
Shuttle or controls a heart defibrillator. But 95% of the time it's
more of an art form, and is often not serious at all.


> It
>requires much and continuous study and hard work to be successful at.

Speak for yourself. It's okay that you find it so difficult, but some
of us don't. Sure, there's a lot to know, and there's always more to
learn, but I think you're over-dramatizing the "hard work" and
"continuous study". I find it to be a lighter endeavor than that, and
I've been successful at it for almost 30 years now.

> There
>are no short-cuts.

Sure there are. Lots of them. Usenet newsgroups, for example.

> The first poster obviously had no idea what ASP was (was
>talking about "on Normal HTML tags, I can do the following"),

I realize that you didn't understand what he meant. But I did.

> and was now
>attempting to delve into the complex object-oriented real-word programming
>discipline of ASP.Nedt.

There's that over-dramtization again. Lighten up.

> I told him what he needed to hear, that one should
>not fool around with such technologies, but should undertake the discipline
>and work necessary to be successful in them.

Utter nonsense. I say - welcome to all who want to try programming,
in any language and using any tools. More power to them. Let them
indulge in it very seriously, or frivolously or anywhere in between.
For fun, or for profit. For a hobby, of for a career. Whatever.

And I thought MVP's were supposed to be here to help.


>
>The second person began by stating that he knew the "technical differences"
>between Session and ViewState. In order to know the technical differences
>between them, one must know the technical details of each. If that is so,
>one knows which one to use, when to use it, and how to use it. I'm not sure
>what he was trying to imply, but it was unnecessary and false. Since
>programming involves a relentless logic, I used logic to illustrate the
>point.


<yawn> Jeeze... lighten up. All you really did was snap out a
cranky and discouraging snide posting.


>
>Now I realize that telling people the hard truths of life is not a pleasant
>task, but as my Uncle Chutney sez, "if the truth hurts, wear it." What this
>means is that the sweetest of lies is more bitter than the most bitter of
>truths. Somebody has to care more about the person they are communicating
>with than their own reputation and/or comfort level, and be willing to
>endure scorn and criticism for doing so. How can one claim to be helpful if
>one is not willing to give the bitter medicine that heals, rather than the
>tasty placebo that allows the patient to continue in sickness, while loving
>the doctor who has given them a clean bill of health?


Jeeeeeze....


>
>If you read the majority of my messages, you will see that I bend over
>backwards to help those who are at all willing to help themselves. Since
>your question is not of a confrontational and accusatory nature, that
>includes yourself, and your question! I hope that my explanation has been
>satisfactory in doing so.

No. Not satisfacory at all. I still think your cranky diatribes were
uncalled for and unnecessarily discouraging. And I think they were
unbecoming of an MVP. If you have nothing helpful to say, then why
not just let it pass and remain silent. Maybe someone else could
actually *help* the person looking for a little aid.


>
>And now, back to my diet of locusts and wild honey.....

.

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  • Re: ViewState vs Session
    ... The first poster obviously had no idea what ASP was, and was now attempting to delve into the complex object-oriented real-word programming discipline of ASP.Nedt. ... What this means is that the sweetest of lies is more bitter than the most bitter of truths. ...
    (microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet)
  • Re: ViewState vs Session
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  • Re: ViewState vs Session
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