Re: an old geezer running visual studio for the first time



Hi TB. WE have all gone through this very same stage that you are facing
right now.
I remember when I was going through this transition myself... Feeling
overwhelmed by VS.NET and not knowing what was the "best new way" of doing
the things I did in the previous platform.
Sit tight! You're in for a extremely thrilling ride with ASP.NET. The more
you understand the ASP.NET infrastructure the more amazed you get and the
more you want to learn.
Yes, it can be frustrating not finding the usual functionality in the usual
places, but I can ensure you all the functionality was kept and enhanced.
The first thing you should keep in mind and learn how to apply is object
oriented design and programming. When you start "getting" the spirit of the
platform (like "the ASPX file produce a class at runtime that inheritd from
the code-behind class), then you'll start to walk on your own.
Another very important thing to master is the page life cycle (the order on
which the events and methods are fired/called).
Another thing that can be annoying in the begining is ADO.NET.

But for any question you may have, the newsgroups is here and google groups
is your best friend.

Hope I can be of help

- Sergio


"TB" <tbpostbox-googlegroups@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eTCWZ3qbFHA.2212@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Hi all:
>
> If you think that the following comments are absolute amateurish, then
> please bear with me, or simply skip this thread.
>
> A couple of months back I made the decision to initiate a gradual upgrade
of
> my web programming skills from Classic ASP / VBS to ASP.NET / VB.NET.
>
> While the study of the language differences and all the new features in
..NET
> has so far not been a traumatic experience, I am a bit shell-schocked
after
> installing and running for the first time Visual Studio .Net (2003
edition).
>
> Until now I have programmed everything in the old-fashioned way, i.e. with
a
> bare minimum of tools: a simple editor for coding, a bit of Frontpage for
> page layout, and my browser to see the results when running the page
against
> a local instance of IIS.
>
> I have done quite a bit web programming, developing anything from yellow
> pages to accounting programs.
>
> But when I ran VS.NET for the first time, I simply didn't know where to
> start.
>
> The program appears to be a sort of Swiss-knife approach to programming,
> eliminating the need for external apps. During the past couple of years I
> have developed my own little collection of helpers which I use during
> development.
>
> VS.NET creates files for "project mangement". My project management
normally
> consists notes and diagrams. My reusable code (subs and functions) is kept
> in separate files, which I either reference to or cut/paste - depending on
> the situation.
>
> I normally use a GUI tool (Frontpage for example) to generate a page
layout.
> In VS.NET I am met with the question whether I want the designed to be
> grid-based or flow-based.
>
> Finally, I discovered that VS.NET saves code and html in different files.
I
> am used to keeping everything together, grouping functions, subs etc above
> the <head> tag, and then insert code snippets between <% %> tags. This
> approach seems to be frowned upon by VS.NET.
>
> Am I an old-fashioned guy? No, because I have made the desicion to move to
> .NET, although a bit late perhaps. But I would like to find a book, a
> tutorial, anything that can teach this old geezer to use a new toy which
> apparently could improve my productivity.
>
> Any advice / comments from people who may or may not have been through the
> same process would be most welcome.
>
> Thanks
>
> TB
>
>
>


.



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