Re: Flash Integration

From: clintonG (csgallagher_at_REMOVETHISTEXT@metromilwaukee.com)
Date: 07/17/04


Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:03:48 -0500

I've re-copied the comments herein from a post I made to another
Microsoft newsgroup [A]. I suggest you -- and others -- become
aware of Microsoft Expression [B] and its relationship to what
Longhorn and Avalon will make possible, i.e. using graphic
representations of a user interface created with vectors which can
be defined using XML grammars.

I begin to briefly discuss this context as follows as I attempt to explain
why I believe Microsoft has recently acquired a vector-based
drawing application called Expression...

<startReCopy />
"Here's Why Microsoft Acquired Expression..."

Microsoft needed technology that can compete with Macromedia's
Flash. Over the last couple of years Flash has become a serious
development tool that can be used to develop user interfaces for
websites [1]. Flash is being extended to other software application
types that use Internet protocols [2]. Flash is being run on all kinds
of devices and is no longer 'just eye candy' but has real functional
value as can clearly be seen by the implementation referred to at [1].

The next version of Windows code-named Longhorn will utilize a
developer framework being called 'Avalon' [3]. This framework will
allow creatives and developers to use Expression to author the visual
'expression' of a user interface for both website applications as well
as desktop applications and those that run on telephones and other
mobile devices.

Longhorn and Avalon will allow developers to extend what has been
created using Expression by using XAML to code creative and
powerful implementations of the user interface for software applications
that run on IIS, Longhorn, and future versions of Microsoft's OS platforms.
More 'insight' about this initiative can be learned by reading this MSDN
article [4].

So, if you always wondered what it would be like to design your
own desktop or interface for a software application such that can
be integrated with the OS and other software applications stick around.
Express is going to be one of the hottest authoring tools around.
<endReCopy />

-- 
<%= Clinton Gallagher
         A/E/C Consulting, Web Design, e-Commerce Software Development
         Wauwatosa, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin USA
         NET csgallagher@ REMOVETHISTEXT metromilwaukee.com
         URL http://www.metromilwaukee.com/clintongallagher/
[1] http://www.rr.com/flash/index.cfm
[2] http://www.macromedia.com/software/flex/?promoid=home_prod_flex_111703
[3] http://www.wininsider.com/news/comments.aspx?mid=1849
[4] http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/04/01/Avalon/default.aspx
[A] Here's Why Microsoft Acquired Expression...
clintonG, 7/16/2004 news://microsoft.public.expression.discussion
[B] http://www.microsoft.com/products/expression/
"Ben Bartsch" <anonymous@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:uBbbnK2aEHA.3332@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> I've been embroiled in ASP.NET development for a long time and I've been
> aware of Flash in the perspective you described - as simply an embedded
> object. I understand Flash as providing us with dancing penguins and buttons
> that you can see and hear explode when you click them; also games and
> movies. But I don't see how that technology offers businesses any real value
> on their sites. I just spent a couple of hours evaluating some sites that
> are built entirely on Flash - effectively showcasing the state of the art
> regarding Flash-based technology. I also read a few *ranting* editorials by
> people promoting Flash as the future of the Web and outright dismissing
> HTML-based sites. I saw and read nothing that pursuades me that Flash offers
> businesses real value beyond a somewhat more polished look and feel when
> applied *sparingly* and with great caution. This is my opinion based on my
> observations. Being a consultant, I need to be able to provide objective
> information to my customers as much as possible. Thus this post. Before I go
> around shooting my mouth off about how Flash doesn't offer much real value
> to them, I want to first know if that belief is correct. I am hoping that if
> it is not correct, someone could explain specifically how Flash can be used
> to bring real value to a business Web site. Just looking for high-level
> feedback here.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> "Eric Cherng" <ericch1@remove_the_dot-hotmai.l.com> wrote in message
> news:eerkr81aEHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Flash is just an embedded object in the HTML for your web page.  ASP.NET
> is
> > server-side technology.  What kind of integration are you looking for?
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
> > "Ben Bartsch" <anonymous@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:OvJNiM1aEHA.4032@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > Looking for opinions on the use of Flash with ASP.NET. Has anyone here
> > seen
> > > or conducted any implementations of Flash that are actually useful or
> > > otherwise complement ASP.NET?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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