Re: Market penetration of ASP versus ASP.NET

From: William Ryan eMVP (dotnetguru_at_comcast.nospam.net)
Date: 05/30/04


Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 00:16:01 -0400

Wow , that's really enlightening. there are sooo many holes in this logic I
can't believe I'm responding to it.
1) There are 736 million HTML pages, that's quite a bit more than PHP. So
I guess by your standard, Dynamic content generation is a total failure.
2) Quantity isn't everything. ASP.NET generates dynamic content... maybe,
just maybe, people do more with less when using ASP.NET? Or, if you click
through a few of those, you'll realize how many of them are discussons of
PHP. If you read #2, it shouldn't be surprising why there might be more
discussion on the subject. And there are a lot of those hits that don't
have ANYTHING to do with technology or what's being used to generate the
content. PHP and ASP are acronyms for a lot of stuff....
3) ASP.NET was officially released in March of 2002 if I remember correctly.
Even if you want to include beta, it hasn't been out nearly as long as the
others. Think about AOL though. Used to have the most intense market
penetration. That's been dwindling to say the least. You could look at any
competitor after they first came out, and draw the same conclusion
4) Even if those numbers meant anything, in terms of real adoption and you
want to ignore the impact of #2, then why does More mean much in the context
you are mentioning it? How many of those users are recreational users vs.
real web sites. There used to be a lot, and I mean a lot, of web pages with
the Blink Tag. So what do sheer numbers mean?
5) By those numbers, considering Windows has far more installs than Linux,
would you call Linux a total failure? It would be very silly to.
6) Look at the numbers for Macromedia's Flash. Would you call it a
marketing failure too?

there sure are a lot of programmers making boatloads of cash working with
this 'failed' technology... maybe they need to learn how smart people query
google and see the light?

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"dotnetforfood" <dotnetforfood@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:64e12d46.0405291529.dcd49dc@posting.google.com...
> I surveyed market penetration of various server-side technologies
> using Google's search facility and posted them to the
> microsoft.public.inetserver.asp.general newsgroup. Results are in
> number of occurrences of each file extension:
>
> FileExt  Occurrences
> ====================
> .PHP      324M
> .ASP      243M
> .CGI      171M
> .JSP       38M
> .ASPX      23M
>
> Despite years of marketing and attempts to convert programmers, it
> appears that ASP.NET is a failure.
>
> ASP in contrast remains vibrantly present, solidly ensconced in second
> place behind PHP. After many years, ASP has more than 10 times larger
> usage than ASP.NET.
>
> Any other surveys available that show ASP.NET adoption (or
> abandonment, since this is also occurring)?


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