Re: Why does VS mark files as changed?

From: Kevin Spencer (kevin_at_takempis.com)
Date: 03/16/04


Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 14:03:57 -0500

When I started teaching myself programming, I was poor, and couldn't afford
a commercial compiler (of course, this was back in the early 90's). I found
shareware command-line compilers and used them. I was learning C, using
compilers that wrote in Kernigan-Richey C, and DOS Edit to create my source
code files. Over the years I was slowly able to get better software and
hardware, but what I learned from having almost nothing has stuck with me
and served me well. What did I learn? I learned that the maximum effective
range of an excuse is 0 meters, and that regardless of the quality of the
tools I used, the bottom line was that I was responsible for making the
software that I write happen. I got very good at workarounds, and very good
at programming, like asn athlete that trains by wearing weights around their
ankles.

Find the perfect software package and you'll find you're in a different
universe than the rest of us. If you don't like Microsoft's products, try
Borland, or some other company. I don't think you'll find the grass any
greener over yonder. In fact, I have found the greenest grass to be growing
in Redmond WA.

-- 
HTH,
Kevin Spencer
.Net Developer
Microsoft MVP
Big things are made up
of lots of little things.
"Lloyd Sheen" <sqlguyremoveallofthis@tostopspamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MmF5c.17527$TxJ.5774@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=18312194
>
> If you guys have any influence as a MVP please let MS know that lots of
> current (paid up) developers are tired of waiting for the promissed land.
> Maybe they should fix what they have first.
>
> Lloyd Sheen
>
> "Alvin Bruney [MVP]" <vapor at steaming post office> wrote in message
> news:uRayn22CEHA.2600@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > these problems are addressed in whidbey
> >
> > -- 
> > Regards,
> > Alvin Bruney [ASP.NET MVP]
> > Got tidbits? Get it here...
> > http://tinyurl.com/3he3b
> > "Lloyd Sheen" <sqlguyremoveallofthis@tostopspamhotmail.com> wrote in
> message
> > news:Q5F5c.17232$TxJ.5927@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> > > Joe,
> > > I agree with you fully.  This newgroup is full of complaints but it
> seems
> > > that all MS people keep telling us to wait until the next release.
Well
> > MS
> > > has constantly put this back.  So how suffers.  The developers who are
> > > supposed to help MS in creating apps that will bring customers to
their
> > > products.
> > >
> > > Would it not be in their interest to fix these problems??
> > >
> > > Lloyd Sheen
> > >
> > >
> > > "Joe Fallon" <jfallon1@nospamtwcny.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%2355UtCxCEHA.1228@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > Not only does it re-format the HTML (randomly) it also drops code
like
> > > > runat="server" !!
> > > > Every time I edit a page and switch between HTML and design view I
> have
> > to
> > > > check this in my <Head> tag.
> > > >
> > > > Both of these bugs are a real pain.
> > > > -- 
> > > > Joe Fallon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Lloyd Sheen" <sqlguyremoveallofthis@tostopspamhotmail.com> wrote in
> > > message
> > > > news:9Cq5c.2922$TxJ.893@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> > > > > If you are using ASP.NET the stupid IDE will reformat the HTML
etc.
> > > This
> > > > > constitutes a change as far as the IDE is concerned and marks the
> page
> > > as
> > > > > changed.
> > > > >
> > > > > No way around it that I know.  Perhaps some day MS will come up
with
> > an
> > > > IDE
> > > > > that can figure out that opening a file does not constitute an
> > agreement
> > > > to
> > > > > reformat and do other behind the scenes changes to information
that
> > > > > developers have spent precious time developing.
> > > > >
> > > > > But not to worry, someone will say "wait until next release".  I
> think
> > > you
> > > > > are probably amoung those who would like an update to fix all the
> > little
> > > > > problems that make this IDE a pain in the ***.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lloyd Sheen
> > > > >
> > > > > "Bruce" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:OcBCZptCEHA.2424@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > Why does Visual Studio sometimes mark my .ascx files as
"changed"
> as
> > > > soon
> > > > > as
> > > > > > I open them, and before I've even touched the file in any way?
> > Since
> > > I
> > > > > only
> > > > > > want
> > > > > > to save files that are changed so that the file dates are
> reflective
> > > of
> > > > > > files that were actually changed for code management purposes,
> this
> > is
> > > > > quite
> > > > > > critical to me.  Does anyone know how to fix or workaround this
> bug
> > in
> > > > VS?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > > Bruce
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