Re: Doubt : ASP.NET problem
From: Kevin Spencer (kspencer_at_takempis.com)
Date: 11/12/04
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 17:30:23 -0500
> I will apologize then for "Publicly" sending the email. I will not
however,
How can you logically apologize for something and in the same breath, do it
again? Again, rather than help, you offer attack, which helps nobody.
BTW, I am NOT a "Microsoft Professional." I don't work for Microsoft, never
have. This is purely voluntary (I thought I had pointed that out). And, as
long as we're on the subject, who are you to define what is professional? I
AM a professional. You are not. When you've paid your dues, like the rest of
us professionals, you may earn that right. Do you have the self-discipline
to do so? Only time will tell.
Maybe politics would be more suitable a profession for you. Logic is
necessary for programming, but not for politics.
-- HTH, Kevin Spencer .Net Developer Microsoft MVP Neither a follower nor a lender be. "Coleen" <coleenholley@yaho.com> wrote in message news:O5QpXTQyEHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > I will apologize then for "Publicly" sending the email. I will not however, > change my feeling that your response was unprofessional and uncalled for. > While I appreciate all of the help that I have received using these > newsgroups, and on occasion I have been able to send some help of my own, I > have never had a Microsoft professional respond in such an unprofessional > manner, and I have never responded in such a manner. I hope that you can > send ASP newbie some help in a manner that is not "Sarcastic" and > unprofessional. ASP newbie, please accept my apologies for using your post > to chastise an unprofessional response. > > "Kevin Spencer" <kspencer@takempis.com> wrote in message > news:O5jmMxPyEHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > > I wasn't being rude. I began with an analogy, to demonstrate the > inadequacy > > of the question in terms that anyone can understand. The question cannot > be > > answered accurately as it stands. "The settings" is not specific enough to > > determine what "settings" the poster is discussing. And the misbehavior of > > the poster's application could be due to any number of factors, as the > > information given was too generic to make any kind of guess whatsoever. > So, > > making a wild guess that the problem (not identified in any way except for > > the phrase "cannot run") is due to "The settings" (not identified in any > way > > whatsoever), is not logical. > > > > Yes, there are differences betwen servers and operating systems, but that > is > > irrelevant. We have no way of knowing ANYTHING about the cause of the > > problem. In fact, we know nothing about the problem at all. If you plan to > > become a "professional" programmer, first learn logic. Half of programming > > is logic. > > > > Communication is the process of providing and receiving meaningful > > information. When a person asks a question, in order to get a meaningful > > response, must provide meaningful information about the problem. This is > one > > meaning of the term "Garbage in, Garbage out," which I didn't invent. > > > > I'm here to help people with problems they have programming in ASP.Net. In > > order to resolve this poster's problem, it is first necessary to diagnose > > it. In order to diagnose the problem, certain information must be provided > > (you know, like going to the Doctor, and he asks "where does it hurt?"). > So, > > in order to solve this person's immediate problem, which is poor > > communication skills, I offered help with that problem, so that, assuming > > that the original poster took my advice, he would be able to provide the > > information necessary to solve the other (unknown at this point) problem. > By > > giving him some advice about effective communication, I hoped to help him > > solve future problems as well. > > > > Now, I've been doing this for free for about 8 years now. As a > compassionate > > person that wants to help, and a person who spends a good bit of time > > putting together detailed and explicit information for people with > probems, > > it often frustrates me when the people who need the help don't spend half > as > > much time framing their issues in ways that enable me (and the others > here) > > to help them. So I ended with a little joke, perhaps a bit sarcastic, but > > out of frustration, not anger or malice. > > > > YOU, on the other hand, have no help to offer. Instead, you want to > publicly > > castigate me for my bedside manner. The medical community has a saying: > > "First, do no harm." By attacking me publicly, you have done just that, to > > someone who has spent countless hours helping people voluntarily. Perhaps > > you and I would both have been better off if you had either approached me > > privately, or just kept your mouth shut. > > > > -- > > HTH, > > Kevin Spencer > > .Net Developer > > Microsoft MVP > > Neither a follower > > nor a lender be. > > > > "Coleen" <coleenholley@yaho.com> wrote in message > > news:uNCOvoOyEHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > > > From one "Newbie" to another, I think this reply was rather > > unprofessional. > > > I admit that I don't know that much about the differences between W2k > > > Professional and W2k Server operating systems; however, I do know that > > there > > > ARE some differences. My husband had to re-configure our Server > operating > > > system when he removed it from being the household server (he is the > > > Director of IT - he knows what he's doing - I know enough to be > > dangerous!) > > > He had to re-install the operating system to make the one-time Server a > > > client on the new Server machine. So, this tells me that there ARE > > > differences between Server operating systems and client operating > systems. > > > While I don't have an answer to ASP newbie's question, I do think that > > Kevin > > > was overlooking that fact that newbie asked if there ARE > > > differences...please try to be a little more courteous to those you are > > > supposed to be trying to help - we aren't here because we know it all! > We > > > browse these newsgroups looking for help and advice. I appreciate the > > help > > > I've been given, but I don't appreciate it when those helping treat us > as > > > though we are idiots! While we may or may not be, you don't have be > rude > > > about it! > > > > > > > > > "Kevin Spencer" <kspencer@takempis.com> wrote in message > > > news:uHOdPJMyEHA.3976@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > > > > My car ran fine yesterday on the way to work. My car cannot run today > on > > > the > > > > Interstate. Can anyone tell me if it's the transmission? > > > > > > > > The quality of an answer is directly proportional to the quality of > the > > > > question. > > > > > > > > IOW, Garbage in, Garbage out. > > > > > > > > Are you being charged for your post by the word? Maybe you could add a > > > few. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > HTH, > > > > Kevin Spencer > > > > .Net Developer > > > > Microsoft MVP > > > > Neither a follower > > > > nor a lender be. > > > > > > > > "ASP newbie" <new@new.com> wrote in message > > > > news:uO#1xHJyEHA.2040@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > > > > > I cannot run my asp.net application in w2k server. > > > > > > > > > > But the program works fine under w2k professional. > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me is there any difference in the settings? > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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