Re: Doubt : ASP.NET problem

From: Coleen (coleenholley_at_yaho.com)
Date: 11/12/04 

Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:12:51 -0800

I will apologize then for "Publicly" sending the email. I will not however,
change my feeling that your response was unprofessional and uncalled for.
While I appreciate all of the help that I have received using these
newsgroups, and on occasion I have been able to send some help of my own, I
have never had a Microsoft professional respond in such an unprofessional
manner, and I have never responded in such a manner. I hope that you can
send ASP newbie some help in a manner that is not "Sarcastic" and
unprofessional. ASP newbie, please accept my apologies for using your post
to chastise an unprofessional response.

"Kevin Spencer" <kspencer@takempis.com> wrote in message
news:O5jmMxPyEHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> I wasn't being rude. I began with an analogy, to demonstrate the
inadequacy
> of the question in terms that anyone can understand. The question cannot
be
> answered accurately as it stands. "The settings" is not specific enough to
> determine what "settings" the poster is discussing. And the misbehavior of
> the poster's application could be due to any number of factors, as the
> information given was too generic to make any kind of guess whatsoever.
So,
> making a wild guess that the problem (not identified in any way except for
> the phrase "cannot run") is due to "The settings" (not identified in any
way
> whatsoever), is not logical.
>
> Yes, there are differences betwen servers and operating systems, but that
is
> irrelevant. We have no way of knowing ANYTHING about the cause of the
> problem. In fact, we know nothing about the problem at all. If you plan to
> become a "professional" programmer, first learn logic. Half of programming
> is logic.
>
> Communication is the process of providing and receiving meaningful
> information. When a person asks a question, in order to get a meaningful
> response, must provide meaningful information about the problem. This is
one
> meaning of the term "Garbage in, Garbage out," which I didn't invent.
>
> I'm here to help people with problems they have programming in ASP.Net. In
> order to resolve this poster's problem, it is first necessary to diagnose
> it. In order to diagnose the problem, certain information must be provided
> (you know, like going to the Doctor, and he asks "where does it hurt?").
So,
> in order to solve this person's immediate problem, which is poor
> communication skills, I offered help with that problem, so that, assuming
> that the original poster took my advice, he would be able to provide the
> information necessary to solve the other (unknown at this point) problem.
By
> giving him some advice about effective communication, I hoped to help him
> solve future problems as well.
>
> Now, I've been doing this for free for about 8 years now. As a
compassionate
> person that wants to help, and a person who spends a good bit of time
> putting together detailed and explicit information for people with
probems,
> it often frustrates me when the people who need the help don't spend half
as
> much time framing their issues in ways that enable me (and the others
here)
> to help them. So I ended with a little joke, perhaps a bit sarcastic, but
> out of frustration, not anger or malice.
>
> YOU, on the other hand, have no help to offer. Instead, you want to
publicly
> castigate me for my bedside manner. The medical community has a saying:
> "First, do no harm." By attacking me publicly, you have done just that, to
> someone who has spent countless hours helping people voluntarily. Perhaps
> you and I would both have been better off if you had either approached me
> privately, or just kept your mouth shut.
>
> --
> HTH,
> Kevin Spencer
> .Net Developer
> Microsoft MVP
> Neither a follower
> nor a lender be.
>
> "Coleen" <coleenholley@yaho.com> wrote in message
> news:uNCOvoOyEHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > From one "Newbie" to another, I think this reply was rather
> unprofessional.
> > I admit that I don't know that much about the differences between W2k
> > Professional and W2k Server operating systems; however, I do know that
> there
> > ARE some differences. My husband had to re-configure our Server
operating
> > system when he removed it from being the household server (he is the
> > Director of IT - he knows what he's doing - I know enough to be
> dangerous!)
> > He had to re-install the operating system to make the one-time Server a
> > client on the new Server machine. So, this tells me that there ARE
> > differences between Server operating systems and client operating
systems.
> > While I don't have an answer to ASP newbie's question, I do think that
> Kevin
> > was overlooking that fact that newbie asked if there ARE
> > differences...please try to be a little more courteous to those you are
> > supposed to be trying to help - we aren't here because we know it all!
We
> > browse these newsgroups looking for help and advice. I appreciate the
> help
> > I've been given, but I don't appreciate it when those helping treat us
as
> > though we are idiots! While we may or may not be, you don't have be
rude
> > about it!
> >
> >
> > "Kevin Spencer" <kspencer@takempis.com> wrote in message
> > news:uHOdPJMyEHA.3976@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > My car ran fine yesterday on the way to work. My car cannot run today
on
> > the
> > > Interstate. Can anyone tell me if it's the transmission?
> > >
> > > The quality of an answer is directly proportional to the quality of
the
> > > question.
> > >
> > > IOW, Garbage in, Garbage out.
> > >
> > > Are you being charged for your post by the word? Maybe you could add a
> > few.
> > >
> > > --
> > > HTH,
> > > Kevin Spencer
> > > .Net Developer
> > > Microsoft MVP
> > > Neither a follower
> > > nor a lender be.
> > >
> > > "ASP newbie" <new@new.com> wrote in message
> > > news:uO#1xHJyEHA.2040@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > I cannot run my asp.net application in w2k server.
> > > >
> > > > But the program works fine under w2k professional.
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone tell me is there any difference in the settings?
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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