Re: Server Control Deployment and Client Scripts?

From: Jiho Han (jiho.han_at_infinityinfo.com)
Date: 04/08/04 

Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 09:34:53 -0400

Ok, I appreciate it though.

One more question about aspnet_client folder usage here:

Is aspnet_client folder meant only for "client" files, meaning, .js scripts,
.css, .htc, etc. and not for .aspx files?
I may have a commonly used .aspx file that I am trying to figure where to
deploy. Think of a lookup control, for example.
It would look like a text box with a magnifying glass button next to it.
Once you click on the button, a dialog would pop up with a list of items
from which you can pick, and when you close the dialog, the value is
returned to the control and the text value shown in the textbox. The dialog
then will have to, at least in my mind, be an .aspx page. Do you think it'd
be a bad practice to put .aspx - albeit not application-specific - into
aspnet_client folder?

Thanks
Jiho

"Jim Cheshire [MSFT]" <jamesche@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Jiho,
>
> That's perfectly fine, and as Nikhil says, that's what you would want to
do
> so that you can ensure that your code runs against the correct version of
> the client scripts.
>
> As far as your custom action is concerned, I cannot answer that. I don't
> ever deal with Setup project issues. Hopefully someone here can assist
> with that.
>
> Jim Cheshire, MCSE, MCSD [MSFT]
> ASP.NET
> Developer Support
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> >From: "Jiho Han" <jiho.han@infinityinfo.com>
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> >Subject: Re: Server Control Deployment and Client Scripts?
> >Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 15:21:16 -0400
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> >I see.
> >The deployment method that I mentioned which is found in the server
> controls
> >book is exactly the approach you suggest.
> >One would be creating a brand new folder structure underneath the
> >aspnet_client folder without touching its system_web_ui subfolder at all.
> >
> >i.e.
> >
> >under c:\inetput\wwwroot\,
> >
> >\aspnet_client
> > \system_web_ui
> > \1_0_0_0
> > ...
> > \myorg_web_ui
> > \1_0_5_99
> > \imgs
> > button_on.gif
> > button_off.gif
> > \scripts
> > button.js
> >
> >And that was what I was suggesting that the original poster do.
> >
> >Any news on my custom setup action question? :)
> >Thanks
> >
> >Jiho
> >
> >"Jim Cheshire [MSFT]" <jamesche@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >news:C6w7M0xGEHA.612@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl...
> >> Jiho,
> >>
> >> What I am cautioning against is changing the versions of the
> client-script
> >> files in the aspnet_client folder via your deployment. If you built
your
> >> control on a different version of the Framework and you want to ensure
> >that
> >> the correct version of the controls are added to the aspnet_client
> folder,
> >> that's fine, but any other change is a bad idea.
> >>
> >> In other words, adding new versions of the client files is fine.
> Changing
> >> those that are already there or removing ones already there is not.
> >>
> >> Jim Cheshire, MCSE, MCSD [MSFT]
> >> ASP.NET
> >> Developer Support
> >> jamesche@online.microsoft.com
> >>
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> >> >From: "Jiho Han" <jiho.han@infinityinfo.com>
> >> >References: <DBDDF2F3-E361-437C-B360-21BB99F5F171@microsoft.com>
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> >> >Jim,
> >> >
> >> >Can you clarify on what you are cautioning against? Is it the
> >modification
> >> >of the structure of the aspnet_client folder structure? Other than
> that,
> >> >your associate Nikhil Kothari actually recommends that we do this in
his
> >> >book ASP.NET server controls and components. I'm a little confused as
> to
> >> >why one MSFT employee would say one thing and the other would say
> >another.
> >> >
> >> >How about the little question that I had on adding a custom dialog to
> the
> >> >S&D Project? Is this possible at all and can you provide some
resources
> >> for
> >> >performing such customizations?
> >> >Thanks much.
> >> >
> >> >Jiho
> >> >
> >> >"Jim Cheshire [MSFT]" <jamesche@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:zH$IE8OGEHA.660@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl...
> >> >> I would strongly caution anyone against doing this. The Framework
> that
> >> is
> >> >> actually executing your ASP.NET application is expecting a certain
> >> version
> >> >> of these client-side scripts to be on the machine. When we update
the
> >> >> Framework, we also often provide updated implementation in these
> files.
> >> >If
> >> >> you change the files on the box, you are going to cause problems
most
> >> >> likely.
> >> >>
> >> >> These may not be binary files, but updating them manually outside of
a
> >> >.NET
> >> >> Framework update is the same as updating a .NET Framework BCL
assembly
> >> >> manually. It simply should not ever be done.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jim Cheshire, MCSE, MCSD [MSFT]
> >> >> ASP.NET
> >> >> Developer Support
> >> >> jamesche@online.microsoft.com
> >> >>
> >> >> This post is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties and confers no
> rights.
> >> >>
> >> >>
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> >> >> >From: "Jiho Han" <jiho.han@infinityinfo.com>
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> >> >> <421EC06A-7659-4F73-92EC-4E18BC4B1D36@microsoft.com>
> >> >> >Subject: Re: Server Control Deployment and Client Scripts?
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> >> >> >Barry,
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I'm not quite sure what you're looking for. But I've been trying
to
> >do
> >> a
> >> >> >similar thing for the controls I built.
> >> >> >I haven't tried this out myself yet but in Setup and Deployment
> >project,
> >> >> you
> >> >> >can add a Custom Action that creates the folder structure.
> >> >> >You will probably need to utilize their Textbox or other UI view to
> >> >gather
> >> >> >which website - if you host multiple websites on a single machine -
> to
> >> >> >install the controls on. Then you can pass the user response in a
> >> >variable
> >> >> >to the Custom Action. A Custom Action is basically a derived class
> of
> >> >> >System.Configuration.Install.Installer.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Visual Studio.NET documentation has a section dedicated to the S&D
> >> >projects
> >> >> >and it's quite helpful.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I've actually been looking for information on how to add a custom
> >dialog
> >> >> box
> >> >> >other than ones found in the S&D project and have found no such
> >> >information
> >> >> >so far.
> >> >> >I'd appreciate some info on that if you ever come across it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Good luck.
> >> >> >Jiho
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Barry Forrest" <barry.forrest@ps.net_remove> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:421EC06A-7659-4F73-92EC-4E18BC4B1D36@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> Jim,
> >> >> >> Thanks for the response. Is there a tutorial you could point me
to
> >> >that
> >> >> >illustrates what kind of package to use and what steps I need to
take
> >to
> >> >> get
> >> >> >the folder structure created?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> >> Barry
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ----- Jim Cheshire [MSFT] wrote: -----
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Barry,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The aspnet_client folder will always be located in the root
of
> >> the
> >> >> >virtual
> >> >> >> server. Inside of it, you will have a system_web folder and
> >then
> >> >a
> >> >> >folder
> >> >> >> for each version of the client scripts on the machine.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Jim Cheshire, MCSE, MCSD [MSFT]
> >> >> >> ASP.NET
> >> >> >> Developer Support
> >> >> >> jamesche@online.microsoft.com
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> This post is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties and confers
> no
> >> >> >rights.
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> >> >> >> >>Help,
> >> >> >> I've read interesting things in the book "Developing
> >Microsoft®
> >> >> >ASP.NET
> >> >> >> Server Controls and Components". They mention using shared
> >> client
> >> >> >scripts
> >> >> >> from the web server stored in
> >> >> >> /aspnet_client/<assemblyName>/<assemblyVersion>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> My questions:
> >> >> >> What type of Setup and Deployment project do I need to use?
> >> >> >> How do I determine where the aspnet_client folder is
located?
> >> >> >> (Our servers have InetPub/wwwRoot on drives other than C:\)
> >> >> >> How to I create the folder structure, especially with a
> >> >dynamically
> >> >> >> generated assemblyVersion?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Any help is appreciated.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Barry
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