Re: Does the DataSet have a future?

From: Sylvain Lafontaine ("Sylvain)
Date: 03/04/05


Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 00:47:34 -0500

As always when someone speaks this kind of language, the real question is
not to know if DataSet or Hibernate have a future but to know if they have a
present. I may safely assume that DataSets and Hibernate will be dead 100
years from now but - quite probably - so will I be.

An ORM model can be a good thing when you are dealing with something like a
trafic cars simulation; as each car can be seen as an object, each object
(car) behind different in many ways from other similar objects (model, year,
speed, consumption, etc.).

However, when you are dealing with things like sport statistics, shopping
carts, merchandises, etc.; dealing with these like if each value was an
object is just plainly stupid.

S. L.

"Greg Gates" <ggates@capcollege.bc.ca> wrote in message
news:59830ce1.0503030850.7e531376@posting.google.com...
>I have recently finished reading 'Hibernate In Action' by Christian Bauer
> and Gavin King. I'm quite impressed with the functionality that is
> available in Hibernate. I am now questioning if the DataSet has a future.
>
> While the DataSet certainly contains a good deal of very useful
> functionality, it appear that a Hibernate solution offers more flexibility
> and, given good tools, a similar ease of use. In addition, the DataSet is
> a
> very "Microsoft-centric" approach. I wonder if a DataSet style approach is
> transferable to the Java world. I get the sense from following the Java
> and
> Object newsgroups that a table-oriented architecture is generally not
> considered to be the best approach as it is not as flexible and is more
> difficult to implement complex business rules.
>
> So what to do? NHibernate is still in beta. There are no out-of-the-box
> tools for object relational mapping in .NET. There are a variety of third
> party ORM tools for .NET, but they have widely differing approaches and
> none appear to have the momemtum of Hibernate.
>
> Is a true ORM solution superior to the DataSet, and will this cause the
> DataSet to become legacy once ObjectSpaces is available?
> It appears the Hibernate offers the functionality that ObjectSpaces will
> offer, but I can use Hibernate today!
>
> For these reasons,I am seriously considering using Eclipse,Hibernate and
> SWT/JFace for a windows client desktop application. What do you think? Is
> this going too far? Am I throwing the baby out with the bathwater?
>
>
> thanks, Greg



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