Re: Rip audio from USB CD device?

From: Rolf Nilsson (nospam_at_nomail.nu)
Date: 04/05/04 

Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 22:39:33 +0200

Hi,

Thanks for responding!

"Alexander Grigoriev" <alegr@earthlink.net> skrev i meddelandet
news:ebNingsGEHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> No need to blame Microsoft for "secrecy".
> Do your homework: read about IOCTL_CDROM_RAW_READ.

I've done that homework a long time ago

anyway,

IOCTL_CDROM_RAW_READ works fine as long as you are able to open the device.

If another process has opened the same device in the same way with say:

HANDLE hFile = CreateFile(\\\\.\\D:, GENERIC_READ | GENERIC_WRITE,
FILE_SHARE_READ, NULL, OPEN_EXISTING, FILE_ATTRIBUTE_NORMAL/*0*/, NULL );

the second one will fail with the following message:
"Can not access the file since it's in use by another process"

If there is a way to open it I would be happy to know about that, I've tried
for years.

As far as I know there are three options to get hold of the raw audio data

1. ASPI - works fine on all Windows platforms, must be installed by the user
on Windows NT, 2000 and XP
and this is not easy for an average user. Does not work with USB devices.

2. SPTI (SCSII Pass Thru Interface) - works on Windows NT, 2000 and XP, is
sinilar to ASPI but one must login
with administrator rights and no other process can use the device, if so it
fails. Does not work with USB devices.

3. IOCTL_CDROM_RAW_READ - works on Windows NT, 2000 and XP and does work
with USB devices.
Using it without administrator rights works fine BUT other processes can use
the device only if it's NOT opened in the same way.

>
> "The only software that can extract audio of an audio CD at any time,
> without any restrictions is WMP, period"
>
> You seem to want to read more from EU lawsuit proceedings,

I don't care about it, it's just big news here in Europe at the moment.

> rather than
> Windows SDK/DDK programming docimentation. There are tons of software that
> can do it, even open source.

Please let me know what software you are thinking of besides WMP and iTunes
that can access the raw data, not just playing the CD, without being
disturbed by another process
accessing the same CD device and not using third party drivers/software.

I would love to be proved being wrong

Thanks
Rolf

> Check sourceforge.net.
>
> "Rolf Nilsson" <nospam@nomail.nu> wrote in message
> news:eSKzWnnGEHA.580@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> >
> > " Thomas Osthege" <onlyspam@gmx.net> skrev i meddelandet
> > news:%23Pl7BBmGEHA.2052@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > "Rolf Nilsson" <nospam@nomail.nu> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> > > news:Or9iYNYGEHA.264@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > |
> > > | Hi,
> > > |
> > > | Is there a way to extract the info in the .cda files that Windows
> > > displays
> > > | to us or are they just "dummy" files with no particular meaning?
> > > |
> > > | Any hints, help or information appreciated
> > > |
> > > | Thanks
> > > | Rolf
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Rolf,
> > >
> > > I did it with with the burning software. I use WinOnCD version 5. This
> > > works great for me.
> >
> >
> > thanks for the info
> >
> > but this newsgroups is about programming, not using software
> >
> > The easist solution to my problem is to simply use Windows Media Player
to
> > do the job
> > and that's what Microsoft wants us to do, use WMP for everything and
kill
> > all competitors.
> >
> > I'm one of the competitors and want to programatically solve this
problem,
> > not to be able to
> > rip CD audio tracks to create MP3 files but to be able to playback audio
> and
> > process the content before sending it out,
> > i.e. add some reverb, maybe do some EQ on the music or whatever. On the
> Mac
> > platform this is simple, easy, documented etc.
> > If you can't get it working you can even ask for help from the guys
behind
> > the scene (the Mac OS sytem people) and you get help.
> > Not so with MS.
> >
> > The problem is (and the Eurpean Union has just sued Micorsoft to pay 500
> > millions of Euro, they will of course not succeed and maybe they should
> > not?)
> > but they point to the problem that Microsoft hides a lot of information
> and
> > monopolize certain things.
> >
> > Ever since the old DOS days, all programmers knows, there is a lot of
> > undocumented API calls that are not available to the public
> > and I would guess (without knowing), this is stil the case.
> >
> > The only software that can extract audio of an audio CD at any time,
> without
> > any restrictions is WMP, period, well OK it seems Apples iTunes
> > can as well, but no other to my knowledge without installing third party
> > software as ASPI drivers etc.
> >
> > You can get around it by logging in as administrator, install third
party
> > drivers, etc, etc but we need a documented and working solution, not
> > potential hacks that may or may not work. Microsoft needs it as well to
> not
> > be left behind. I love programming Windows as much as any other OS but
it
> > must not be impossible to do what is/should be simple.
> >
> > Rolf
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Thomas
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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