Re: possible to connect 2 graphs?

From: Joe Johnson (joe_at_eirbase.com)
Date: 06/30/04 

Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:50:34 +0100

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:07:54 -0600, The March Hare (MVP) wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:32:51 +0100, Joe Johnson wrote:
>
>
>> I'm not making this any more personal than you are. Read your last
>> paragraph again. "I had issues with 'his'..." and "'his' lack of
>> understanding.." That sounds personal to me. You aren't speaking in
>> generalities. You're speaking about one individual.
>
> Apparently, you don't understand what the idiom "make something personal"
> means:
>
> "Aimed pointedly at the most intimate aspects of a person, especially in a
> critical or hostile manner: an uncalled-for, highly personal remark."
>
> The discussion with enze has been about the business practices, posting
> deceptive commercial advertisements and what the community is here for.
>
> Even in this discussion where I am questioning your reasoning and
> understanding of language I am trying to be careful not to make it
> personal.
>
>>>> You expect Enze to be
>>>> more upfront with his commercial interests (which I agree with btw), but
>>>> you aren't being upfront with yours.
>>>
>>> What commercial interests do I have here? I am here, as previously stated,
> <snip>
>> Sorry Phil, but you completely misunderstood my point. Enze has his
>> (commercial) interests and you have your (own) interests.
>> I was merely
>> stating that you both have 'interests' - not that yours are commercial. I
>> didn't think I'd need to spell it out, but that should be clear enough now.
>
> You don't need to spell it out. You need to learn to write clearly. The
> comparison of his "commercial interests" and "yours [mine]" without
> qualification is ambiguous at best. And, prior to you writing this, I
> *had* spelled out my interests before you wrote this and you *had* replied:
>
> ME: "...I am here to help others and to learn. That is what I think this
> newsgroup is for..."
> YOU: "...I'm glad to hear that you want to help others..."
>
>> As for your privacy, I do respect it and would certainly not publish your
>> email address, despite the fact that it is included in the header of every
>> message you post.
>
> No, it isn't. That is my MSDN email alias. It is not a valid email
> address.
>
>>>> You beat around the proverbial bush on
>>>> what seems like a personal vendetta.
>>>
>>> Why are you using charged words like "vendetta"? I am not bitter and I am
>>> trying to *improve* the newsgroup. Where have I made any ad hominem
>>> attack? Where have I made this personal? (and if you're going to harp on
>>> the domain name, please re-read the paragraph above)
>>>
>> I don't recall ever saying you were 'attacking' anyone. Please do not add
>> your own charged words and claim they are mine.
>
> Come on! You just wrote the "personal vendetta". Is there a personal
> vendetta that doesn't involve attacking the other party?
>
>>> Did you find it on my recommendation? I appreciate the gratitude you show
>>> me.
>>
>> Is that what you want Phil? Do you want people to owe you gratitude for the
>> help you provide? Is there no such thing as simply helping people for the
>> sake of doing something good without expecting something in return?
>
> I appreciate when people say thank you.
>
>> and modest.. you forgot to add that you have also remained very modest.
>> Of course I can't speak for others, but I am personally very relieved that
>> you haven't resorted to hyperbole.
>
> I would not have posted in the first place if I didn't consider I had some
> expertise in the matters under discussion. If that is immodest and
> reprehensible to you there is nothing I can do about it. You seem to want
> to make this a quasi-religious discussion with your little homilies. I am
> not biting.
>
>> We are clearly discussing symantics here. Your definition of opinion is
>> valid in the way you describe it. I am referring to the democratic use of
>> the word in the sense that it equates to a 'vote'. Everybody is entitled to
>> have one and they always carry the same weight, regardless of one's
>> experience. Where the two definitions differ is the level of credibility
>> given to one opinion over another based on a persons (perceived) experience
>> in certain circumstances. I agree that people will choose the opinion of an
>> expert over that of a novice in this type of forum. But in the real social
>> (community) sense, experience is irrelevant. I am a strong believer of
>> freedom and democracy, and will continue to maintain that everyone's
>> opinion should be respected and valued equally regadless of experience.
>
> Ah, then use the word "vote" (and try "semantics" not "syntax"). My
> American Heritage dictionary doesn't include "vote" as one of its five
> definitions of "opinion", nor is it a synonym in its Thesaurus. I checked
> the OED and it is not there either. Unless this is a difference with Irish
> English your language skills have failed you again.
>
>> Nobody is asking you to have this debate Phil (Mr Hare?). You could just as
>> easily get on with your work and save yourself the exasperation. But I will
>> save you the trouble of deciding because I'm really getting bored with this
>> non-productive banter which obviously isn't helping either of us. I have
>> work to do and you have experience to dispense.
>
> It is hard to resist pointing out your factual and usage errors when you
> insult me with your sarcasm.

Oh Phil, it saddens me to hear you feel insulted. I have the utmost respect
for you and your vast amounts of experience. I also read that you are
multilingual as well - is there no end to your talents?

Unfortunately, your understanding of Enlish is not one of them. There are
considerable differences between US English and UK/Irish English, and it
surprises me that you didn't know that. There are many differences, not
only with spelling but also with grammer.

Another point where you are wrong (and I really hate to point this out) is
that you assumed I am Irish. I never said I was. I only said I live here. I
have lived in many countries, and it just so happens that I'm living in
Ireland at the moment.

Now Phil, I really do have to do some work and I suggest you do the same.

But just out of curiosity, is the work *gob**** in your fancy American
Heritage dictionary? You obviously keep it close at hand so it shouldn't be
a problem for you to look.