Re: possible to connect 2 graphs?

From: Joe Johnson (joe_at_eirbase.com)
Date: 06/28/04 

Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:33:56 +0100

Lads,

As the person who asked the initial question which spurred on the ensuing
inquest, I've noticed that of the 13 replies in this thread, only a small
percentage actually pertain to my question.

I really don't want to get involved in the (new) issue that sidetracked my
question, but I have to say that I don't think anyone reading this thread
would find it worthwhile or beneficial.

You (MVP) seem to have taken an unnecessarily acute interest in Enze's
filters, which, in my opinion, go far beyond what an inveterate poster's
legitimate interest should be. I'm not trying to defend anyone, but I don't
see the same level of interrogation being applied to anyone else.

I have discussed the legal aspects of disclosing private information with
Enze, and he has acknowledged his mistake. We all make them, and in
fairness, he has apologized for it. For me, that matter is now closed.

You also seem to take offense at Enze recommending his commerical product
in this newsgroup. Please read the following excerpt from the "Rules of
Conduct" for this site:

"Advertising/Solicitation: These communities were created as a forum for
providing peer-to-peer assistance on Microsoft products and services. We
ask that you refrain from posting advertisements or solicitations that do
not pertain directly to the intended use and purpose of the newsgroup or
chat."

As far as I can see, his product does indeed pertain directly to this
newgroup, and, as such, he has every right to advertise it. And getting
back to the original issue I had, Enze's filters are the ONLY solution
which has been recommended. Nobody else has been able to provide positive,
encouraging feedback, and, at the end of the day, that's what really
matters.

People like me use this newsgroup and thousands like it every day because
we need help. We don't need bickering and one-upmanship. We need answers.
So please put aside your differences for the good of the community.

Joe

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 21:56:02 -0600, The March Hare (MVP) wrote:

> On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 09:50:40 -0700, enze wrote:
>
>> This is enough, now you are leaving the real world!!
>> See the poster called charly - did you gave him one short support?
>> No, all you do is starting big discussion about me - great.
>
> This is a community newsgroup. The emphasis is on *community*. I am one
> of the inveterate posters here and have an interest in this newsgroup's
> health. This is not a discussion about you. It is about the filters and
> how they perform. You have brought into question your understanding of
> privacy and, by extension, trademarks on the Internet and this is a
> legitimate concern for anyone who might do business with you. Calm down.
> You might learn something valuable that keeps you out of trouble.
>
> 1. I am asking both charly and JoeJ about their experience with your
> products. Why do you have a problem with that?
>
> 2. How do we know if your products work without feedback from people who
> have used them?
>
>>>>I'm guessing enze doesn't have a privacy policy and doesn't know the
>>>>law.If I am not mistaken the EU has legislated privacy restrictions in
>>>>place for the Internet. I would hazard a guess that enze also does not
>>>>have permission to use the registered trademark MPEG in his domain >>name.
>> I wonder what MPEGLA thinks about that.
>>
>> Are you crazy??? Do you think you can make 10 years buisiness without
>> legalization?
>
> 3. Do you have a written privacy policy (this is a yes/no question, but
> include a link if you have one)?
>
> 4. Do you have permission from MPEGLA to use their registered trademark
> MPEG in your domain name? (this is a yes/no question)
>
>> Which document`s you like to see?
>> i would be happy to send you all you need !
>
> See the question above, I did not ask to see any documents. I am asking
> straightforward questions and request clear answers.
>
>>>>Interesting. According to another poster called charly they work just
>>>>fine.
>>
>> For your clarification, i am afraid you did not read the post's cearfully
>> enough:
>> The poster Charly is talking about Mpeg2 source filter !
>> A source filter is a filter which makes you able to open video/audio streams
>> for playback.
>> Here we are talking about special capture filter`s - OK???
>
> I made a mistake, I apologize. If the follow ups in the thread were quoted
> logically I would have a better chance of following up properly. And I
> know what a source filter is.
>
>> By the way, i think charly is loosing nerv because of your sensless
>> questions.
>
> 5. Why would charly lose his nerve?
>
> 6. What is senseless about my questions (please be specific and logical)?
>
>> Joe has the new version of capture filter which is released short time.
>> Unfortunately the user manual is not finished, becaues of this, Joe had some
>> "issues" in development. But be sure we get all working.
>
> 7. Do you realize that using his name as a customer in this newsgroup
> without obtaining his permission beforehand:
>
> (i) would be a violation of the privacy policy of virtually every reputable
> company on the web (yes/no)?
>
> (ii) probably violates this* EU directive (yes/no)?
> * See: http://europa.eu.int/comm/internal_market/privacy/guide_en.htm
>
>> Did you gave Joe one short support in his two post's??
>> No, all you do is starting big discussion about me again, great.
>
> 8. As I have stated earlier, my intent is to establish whether your
> products do what they claim. I still can't see why you have a problem with
> this. I am simply trying to establish whether your products work. Why is
> this a problem for you? (please refer me to your answer to question 1 if
> you have covered this in your answer there)
>
>> Hare, go on with your (sometimes) good support in newsgroup but
>> please stop asking:
>> "did you purchase?", "did it work", "is he in law"
>
> I will continue to ask questions that are relevant. The questions relate
> to legitimate concerns for this newsgroup. Please take the time to respond
> to my questions. I do not understand why you can't take a logical approach
> to this rather than getting emotional about it. I haven't said that
> anything doesn't work and I have raised some legitimate concerns about
> privacy and trademarks. There are nine questions including the two part
> one in number seven. Some are simple yes/no.

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