Re: question about oney's samples
From: Don Burn (burn_at_stopspam.acm.org)
Date: 10/26/04
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:13:05 -0400
I have stated this on a number of forums, SoftIce has problems:
1. It is never up to date on Windows Beta's, so if you ever need to
debug your driver on the latest version you are SOL
2. It modfies the system enough that it can cause different behavior
in your driver than what you get with WinDBG or the regualarily running
system. Compuware's attitude is until you prove it is our problem we aren't
interested,
3. Even if you use the remote version you get problem 2.
4. You want to use a seperate test machine for reasons already stated,
and because for the simple bugs you can fix the bug in the time the test
system reboots and have WinDBG load it for you. So you are wasting time
using SoftIce.
5. Why pay for a piece of CRAP.
-- Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK) Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting Remove StopSpam from the email to reply "Tim Roberts" <timr@probo.com> wrote in message news:8kqrn0962jksrdnhtb3pu36qo1j8ncn3v9@4ax.com... > Walter Oney <waltoney@oneysoft.com> wrote: > > > >Also, I've just never been able to get WinDbg to work right. > > I never knew that! > > My experiences are exactly opposite of yours. WinDBG used to be a useless > piece of excrement. There was a running joke in our office that the first > two days of every new development project were dedicated to getting the > proper set of serial cables, adapters, and serial parameters lined up to > satisfy WinDBG. > > However, the latest versions are VASTLY improved. By using Microsoft's > central symbol server and a 1394 cable, WinDBG is just a "no brainer" for > me. It works, every time, and symbols show up right where they're supposed > to. > > At the same time, I can no longer get SoftICE to do what I want. The > graphics chips I use are apparently not compatible with the "universal > video driver", and the SoftICE serial support is much worse than WinDBG. > -- > - Tim Roberts, timr@probo.com > Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc
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