Re: WinDBG, doesn't support kernel debugging?
From: Gary G. Little (gglittle_at_sbcglobal.net)
Date: 10/03/04
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Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 17:13:31 GMT
Personally, I would not want to debug my drivers on the same machine I use
to develope them. I have always debugged using a target and host set up, and
find it a MUCH safer environment than a single environment. To many times
have I had a bad crash that hosed the targets OS leading to a complete
reformat and install. Not to mention that installing and uninstalling
drivers can proliferate trash throughout the registry, eventually leading to
a crash and possible format and install. I prefer debugging my drivers using
serial or 1394 to a target to protect my development environment. Also, my
target has an 80gig FAT32 disc that has several pre-canned OS environments
such as 2K, XP, and Server 2003 allowing me to refresh a corrupted boot disc
or switch to another environment quickly for testing. Those precanned
environments are vanilla with only the minimum drivers added for runtime.
This allows a relatively quick restore capability to allow testing an
install on a clean system.
For what I have to pay for softice, I can purchase a cheap dual processor
system for a target.
-- Gary G. Little "Vipin" <vipin@nospam.com> wrote in message news:%23CsqN8JqEHA.340@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > Gary, > > I meant you can't do KM debugging on a single machine. > > "Vipin" <vipin@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:eObDg0JqEHA.3172@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >> But with windbg you can do kernel debugging on the same machine. That's > what >> I meant >> >> >> "Gary G. Little" <gglittle.nospam@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >> news:nFc7d.475$Lk3.114@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com... >> > They have ... it's called WinDbg. >> > >> > -- >> > The personal opinion of >> > Gary G. Little >> > >> > "Vipin" <vipin@nospam.com> wrote in message >> > news:%23I7cvL5pEHA.3244@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >> > > what I don't understand is why microsoft can't come up with something >> like >> > > softice? Softice is damn costly for developers to purchase.And once >> > > we >> are >> > > done with the development at office or on a particular project for > which >> > we >> > > have softice license, we can't use for any other purpose.I used to > work >> on >> > > project for which they had softice license,but once I moved out of >> > > the >> > > project, I can't use softice. Why doesn't MS come with a free >> > > debugger >> of >> > > the same style? >> > > >> > > "Pat [MSFT]" <patfilot@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> > > news:uZYh97EpEHA.2684@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... >> > > > The error message is stating that WinXP is the minimum for doing >> 'live' >> > > > local kernel debugging, not that WinDBG can't do it. I doubt that >> > 'live' >> > > is >> > > > what you want to do anyway since it is fairly limited (e.g. you > can't >> > set >> > > a >> > > > break point). You would get a much better learning experince >> debugging >> > > > across 2 machines (so you can set break points, follow program >> > > > flow, >> > > etc.). >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > pat >> > > > >> > > > "Harry Potter" <hpotter@azkabar.com> wrote in message >> > > > news:uaAVsyApEHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... >> > > > > Hi guys, >> > > > > I'm trying to debug the sample IM drivers Passthru from Microsoft >> > > > > samples.... I assume this is a kernel mode driver and therefore >> trying >> > > to >> > > > > use the kernel mode debugging of the windbg on same local > machine... >> > but >> > > I >> > > > > get the following error... what am I doing wrong???? Please note >> that >> > > I'm >> > > > > running on windows 2000.... >> > > > > >> > > > > Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.3.0017.0 >> > > > > Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. >> > > > > >> > > > > The system does not support local kernel debugging. >> > > > > Local kernel debugging requires Windows XP, Administrative >> > > > > privileges, and is not supported by WOW64. >> > > > > Debuggee initialization failed, HRESULT 0x80004001 >> > > > > "Not implemented" >> > > > > >> > > > > doesn't this feature supported on win 2000 pro??? what should I >> > > > > do >> > > then??? >> > > > > I have the administrative privilege on my own pc. >> > > > > thank you... >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> > >
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