Re: SoftIce crashes with Windows 2000 SP4

From: David J. Craig (SeniorDriversWriter_at_shogunyoshimuni.com.net)
Date: 02/10/04 

Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 22:08:00 -0500

It is your choice just like those of us who have an editor we love. I
figure that $1500 for a good test system is far cheaper than the current
pricing for SoftIce. A cheap test system can be had for $500 and no
SoftIce package costs less than $1000. My only reason in the past for
using SoftIce was that I could use one debugger for 9x and NT and even
MS-DOS but since the DOS version is not being updated, the command sets
have diverged too much. I had to debug a DOS driver recently and found
that many commands I had depended upon in 9x & NT were not supported.
Try debugging video drivers or DirectX with SoftIce - I suspect a lot of
conflicts since they use the same resources. The keyboard also since
you have only one for both the debugger and the OS. The delay of
support for new OS versions can be a problem if you want to be ready to
ship with a new OS.

"Alex" <AlX@a> wrote in message
news:unrmAZ37DHA.2404@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>
> "Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
> news:e51fsR37DHA.3880@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > me a terible crippling feeling, so it's more about "How easy" I
can
> > > accomplish my task. Productivity, if you want..
> >
> > WinDbg has all GUI windows like Memory, Registers, Locals, Call
Stack etc.
> It
> > is a superset of MSVC++ debugger.
> >
> > Anyway you productivity will be by far higher if you will type "dv"
> instead of
> > switching windows via the mouse to get to the Locals window :-)
>
> But I have all the windows docked on screen, so I don't have to do
anything
> to see what i need
>
> In the end It's a matter of taste, I would like SoftICE even if WinDbg
would
> write the code for me
> ;)
>
> >
> > --
> > Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
> > StorageCraft Corporation
> > maxim@storagecraft.com
> > http://www.storagecraft.com
> >
> >
>
>

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