Re: Access DB grows too fast.

From: William \(Bill\) Vaughn (billvaRemoveThis_at_nwlink.com)
Date: 06/28/04


Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:55:25 -0700

Nate,
    Unlike SQL Server (or most other business-class databases), Access/JET
does not recover space lost when rows are changed or deleted. Any alteration
of the database results in the original row being marked for deletion and
the new row (even if it's exactly the same) being added. Add a row, you get
one more row. Change the row and now you have an additional row. Delete a
row and the row remains. It's only after you compress the database are these
extra rows removed and then only in the process of locking down the file and
copying only the "active" (undeleted) rows.

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"Nate Clark" <ntclark@attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:40E04E43.50602@attglobal.net...
>
> Hi All and thanks for the help.
>
>
> I have an application that needs to store a large # of records in
> multiple tables.
>
> Application is written in VB.
>
> The problem that I am having is that after insert of these records (test
> case is 900 K records), I get a '.mdb that is nearly 1 GB in size. I
> then compact this database and get it down to about 155 MB in size. The
> only activity in getting that huge size is the insert(s) of the large #
> of rows.
>
> It seems that Access is wasting huge chunks of space during the import
> of these files and/or I am doing something wrong or not doing something
> I should be.
>
> I have tried 2 types of "bulk inserts" (BTW I cannot find an actual bulk
> insert for Access. Is there one ?)
>
>
> 1. Declaring an ADODB recordset using sql such as:
>
>     SELECT * FROM Table WHERE ID = -1
>
> Which is guaranteed to be empty when the rs opens (ID can't be < 0 ),
> and then adding to that recordset (.AddNew) and then updating it every
> 32 K records or so.
>
>
> 2. Writing my data out to a flat file and then calling C code that uses
> the ODBC API SQLPrepare technique to create a parameterized SQL
> statement which I then use to load data from the flat file.
>
>
> (Preliminary results - method 2 much faster)
>
> Both methods give me this huge database after this import.
>
> Further, and somewhat worrisome, after I get about 2+ million records in
> the database, I start getting "Invalid Parameter" errors all over the
> application (My fields are Long Integer which should provide me with
> values in a very large range - well above 2+ million anyway)
>
>
> I see from reading my own post that indeed I haven't tried single
> "INSERTS". This is something I will try now but I'll go ahead and post
> the question as I'm not really confident that is something that's going
> to fix this problem.
>
>


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