Re: Need a new guy

"Kline Sphere" <.@> wrote in message
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> >1. The role I've described above is basically 80% of what's involved in
>>almost all IT roles. Add a little research, maybe.
>
> I know no one in IT who performs such a role, but then I don't work
> for Dell, Gateway etc. It certainly does not account for 80% of what's
> involved in IT from where I stand, or rather, sit, but then I work in
> the real world.

You either install or uninstall software. Punch numbers into a machine. Have
meetings with people less technical and make them feel comfortable about it.
Or you don't. Your printer is jammed. The report on form I-14 is printing
out in reverse chronological order. Jerry, could you please tell us why we
can't connect to the houston database? We need to implement a new system for
cost effective management jargon capitalization with growth potential in the
private sector for our marketing division. In this process, we will require
cross pollinating our sales force and empowering them with information
necessary to sell things and look pretty.

>>2. A degree is most definately pointless. Institutionalized learning leads
>>to institutionalization. There's no such thing as a decent education,
>>because the only thing that humans can teach is human indecency.
>
> Really? I guess then it's time to close down all the colleges and
> universities.

No. It's time to make more fake ones. The entire system could be invalidated
if there were enough falsehoods. Of course, the lemmings will proudly march
forward and proclaim that there's a better life over that cliff. You, sir,
are the head lemming today.

> The first few years of working life are what shapes the future, so
> anyone without a degree (or at least a very good level of education)
> is at a complete disadvantage when they start out in life; unless,
> that is, they have what it takes to be a star quarterback. The
> prospect of dead end job after dead end job or periods of
> unemployment, will be more of a reality to such people and that stands
> true more so in today's world. Still, there's always welfare.

All jobs are 'a means to an end'. You work, you die. Welcome to life.

Maybe you'll get a few spiffy things along the way, but you'll have spend
your life in the process of trying to get them, and you'll spend your life
cleaning them and defending them and insuring them and and and... They call
them posessions because they posess you, not the other way around.

>
>>3. Money does not make you rich. Only criminals enjoy a good quality of
>>life.
>
> I guess that makes me a criminal then.

If you are an MCSE, you are a criminal in Quebec.

>>4. Nobody gets to retire until they are dead, and even then, it's
>>questionable.
>
> I'm retiring not long after I'm fifty, whether I'm dead or not.

You'll still have to work.

>>5. There aren't too many well paying jobs, period.
>
> My kid bother makes $200k (more now I expect) a year, but then he's a
> jerk. To me that's good money, simply for being good at telling lies,
> well that and going to law school.

No such thing as good money, especially not if you are a lawyer.

> I see plenty of good paying jobs in the ieee mags, but you need skills
> and experience. I also see plenty of entry level positions in the
> various fields of engineering - non grads need not apply, though.

No such thing as a good paying job. The pay and the risk are always equal.
And then, there's taxes, and tax law...

>>6. It's not hard to break into IT,
>
> Back home, we'd get hundreds of resumes from grads wanting to get into
> IT (software engineering) even if we were not recruiting.

Then there are hundreds of idiots wasting money on mail. Doesn't mean it's
hard to break into IT. I broke into Microsoft. All it takes is a brain.

> Granted it was somewhat easier back in the late 90's for half wits to
> get into IT. Simply by being able to install a nic, bunging on a few
> controls onto a vb form or slapping together a few web pages, simply
> is not going to get someone an entry level position today. Thankfully
> those days in the 90's have gone.

Actually, those skills probably would be able to get someone an entry level
position. If they were pretty, and they smelled nice.

How many startup businesses can't afford some guy who charges $200,000 a
year and don't need a system that runs on C++? How many startup businesses
need a couple vb forms and a web page?

None of the qualities of these 'days in the 90s' which you are
characterizing as gone are gone. The world is the same place now as it was
yesterday, and the same as it was before. There are just different
attitudes.

>> it's hard to realize that IT is the same
>>as any other career field, a dead end.
>
> I've made a great living out of IT but I know people in IT that have
> made [far] more (financially) than me. I also knew one guy who was an
> IBM consultant back in the 80's who in 1998, when I meet him last,
> was a shoe salesman (not in the Al Bundy sense though). So, to turn a
> career into a 'dead end' one, is up the individual. No mater what you
> doin life it's up to each individual to make something of themselves.

No, it has nothing to do with the individual. There's a system in place that
has been designed to make everyone suffer. A cycle of insanity that no one
escapes from. Welcome to it.

Everyone dies, whether they have a degree or not. A degree is pointless. A
person is not.








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