Re: GPO configuration
- From: "Wayne" <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:14:01 -0700
Thanks - Wayne
"Steven L Umbach" wrote:
> There natively is no possible way to override/bypass domain password policy
> for domain users. Again, domain controllers read ONLY the domain container
> GPO's for password/account policy. If you undefine a password/account policy
> setting that means "no change" from current configuration. Password/account
> policy is one of the few exceptions to the normal way GP is applied and this
> naturally confuses a lot of users. You can use the command " net accounts "
> on a domain controller to find out most domain password policy settings
> other than complexity. The link below explains also. --- Steve
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;255550
>
> "Wayne" <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:50DD62F2-91D2-4E7C-9F97-FF6CF7DDC452@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >I am still confused on this issue. What if I leave the domain
> > account/password policy undefined and apply different OU account/password
> > policies? It seems like this should work. Also on the issue of
> > overrides -
> > does an account/password policy applied at the domain level override OU
> > level? I thought the lower GPO policies would overwrite the upper levels
> > if
> > the same setting is configured with different parameters. So in my
> > question
> > above the undefined policy would override the defined policy? Do
> > account/password policies always override lower processed GPO policies
> > even
> > if you do not no override in the GPO? Note - these questions apply to
> > 2000
> > arena - 70-217.
> > Thanks
> >
> > "Steven L Umbach" wrote:
> >
> >> Within the native operating system there can be only one password/account
> >> policy for "domain" users and this is defined only at the domain level.
> >> The
> >> domain controllers apply password policy and they read the policy from
> >> the
> >> winning domain level policy that has password policy defined which in a
> >> fresh install would be Domain Security Policy. However any domain linked
> >> GPO
> >> could apply the password policy and the GPO at the top of the list has
> >> highest priority. When configuring a password/account policy make sure
> >> that
> >> you do not change defined settings to "undefined" to reverse or disable
> >> them. A good example is password complexity. If you want to disable it
> >> for
> >> some reason change the domain level policy to disabled and not undefined
> >> as
> >> undefined will not disable it.
> >>
> >> There are ways to use custom passfilt.dll to have different password
> >> policies for different users/computers in a domain. Writing and
> >> installing a
> >> passfilt.dll correctly is not a trivial matter and takes a good
> >> programmer
> >> and there are third party applications that can do such. In my opinion
> >> it
> >> makes sense to have a strong password/account policy for all domain users
> >> and to train users how to conform to it. Training users to use pass
> >> phrases
> >> instead of passwords can help immensely. Instead of remembering T65r)*xn
> >> as
> >> a password they could use a favorite phrase such as A spoonful of sugar!
> >> which is a long complex password. Train them to leave the spaces in the
> >> passphrase. For sensitive accounts consider using smart cards and
> >> configuring the user account to require a smart card for logon.
> >>
> >> In Windows 2000/2003 domains are NOT security boundaries - forests are.
> >> You
> >> can create external or possibly forest trusts [in Windows 2003] to allow
> >> resources to users from a different forest. Remember that admins in the
> >> root
> >> forest domain are all powerful in a forest. --- Steve
> >>
> >>
> >> "Wayne" <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:79A7C1D9-7FD0-44A2-86C2-3E86D264F2DB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Hi,
> >> > I am confused on the issue of Domains and security boundries. Can I
> >> > have
> >> > different password policies in the same domain? Couldn't I have one
> >> > policy
> >> > that has a 6 character password requirement and link it to a GPO for
> >> > the
> >> > general user, and then have a 12 character password requirement for
> >> > admin
> >> > group linked through a GPO? Also what happens when you have a GPO like
> >> > this
> >> > with password requirements linked to a site that crosses domains? Does
> >> > it
> >> > just not process or execute properly?
> >> > Thanks - Wayner
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
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