Re: new cert coming

In article <Xns9631A8E44E839catwalker63athotmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
_catwalker63_@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx says...
> Ben Smith <benjaminwsmith@xxxxxxxxxxx> prattled ceaslessly in
> news:MPG.1cbf480421de5dc99896cd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
>
> >
> > Forensics is a very rapidly growing field, training is required on
> > tools, like NCase, and a very strong knowledge of system internals
> > (file systems, disk geometry, etc...) is required. Community colleges
> > are starting to create some good programs for the entry level training
> > needed.
> >
> > IDS is sort of a dead end in security. It is interesting, but not
> > wholly useful.
> >
> > Operating system and application security is a the biggest field,
> > especially databse and web security.
> >
> > Security is a lot like a foreign language - just speaking a foreign
> > language does not meaning much, but coupling it with a skill, like
> > finance, can lead to a highly lucrative job. Likewise, unless you want
> > to compete with people like me for jobs (which you likely don't), you
> > need to couple security with some other in-demand skill.
> >
>
> Which community colleges?

Where are you?

> And would project management be an in-demand
> skill in your opinion?

Always! Most project managers are not very good - they are more like
babysitters. PMI certification will get you into decent project
management jobs.

One key attribute about good project managers is that they don't sign on
to doomed projects (namely those without clear goals, metrics, and exit
criteria). Learning to spot doomed projects is how you pay your dues.


> I don't have real experience yet, so I'm not
> ready to compete on your level. Someday, maybe. <g> Right now I want
> to know what it takes to get in on the ground level somewhere. What are
> hiring managers looking for in entry level security positions and what
> kinds of positions are there? How should I market myself?

With security - a base understanding of how security is about risk. Core
technical knowledge basic security and TCP/IP, familiarity with
firewalls and routers, basic problem management and troubleshooting.


I am working on a project for the National Science Foundation right now
to develop a complete list of skills for security jobs. It will be ready
around October.
.

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