Re: Life After MCSE
From: Rowdy Yates (rowdy_yates_mcngpATyahooDOTcom)
Date: 01/05/05
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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 03:55:48 -0800
Back in 1989 I got real drunk one night, and I was at this Todd Rundgren
concert, you know the one where he was touring the "Nearly Human" album,
pretty good album, so anyway, I saw this girl, and she was like real hot.
So my buddy who was with me said I should go up to her and pick her up.
So I said what the hell. I walked up to her and said she was real hot and
if she wanted to go have a beer. Then next thing, someone grabbed me by
the collar from behind and threw me accross the floor. Then this guy
started kicking me. Turned out to be her boyfriend.. Next thing, the
girl, who was real hot! - she started kicking me. and my buddy came in to
save me, but they threw him on the floor as well and they started kicking
both of us. and...
oh, what where we talking about again? certifications... right..the MCSE.
:-)
"Andy" <newsposting@multizite.org> wrote in
news:#mW#8xv8EHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl:
> Hi Cliff
>
> Back in 1999 I finished my certifications. About the same time I got
> by first job as a system administrator. Sure, I knew a lot about NT4,
> Microsoft technologies and such. Or so i thought. What a shock, 3 days
> into the job, I quickly understood one thing. I still had a lot to
> learn. What do you do in such a situation? Well, you begin to read,
> and learn even more. The first 6 months on the job, I learnt as much I
> did prepering for the certifications. But this was the real deal.
> Was the certifications a waste of time? No, it gave me some valuable
> basics for doing my job. Sure, I had to learn everyhing about hardware
> the hard way. But, one thing you'll quick learn is that when you work
> with IT the technology is quickly changing. If you took the MCSE track
> to quickly get a high paid system Manageer job, and though "thats it",
> your wrong. But, if you'e the real deal. A person who really has a
> interest in computers and software, you'll rather quickly learn what
> you need. And you will continue to learn every single day.
> So what is my present situation?
> Well, now I'm 28 years old. I've begun the process of upgraring my
> certifications from NT4 to W2k3. I've been working for the same
> company for over 5 years. I've gone the ranks from IT worker, to
> systems integrator and now I'm the IT manager. I've done hand's on
> work with integrating A.D in a network with over 300 servers, several
> sites, IP subnets etc. I've done 2 relocations of the computers halls.
> This is things I never learnt doing my first certifications. You learn
> by doing. You'll meet a lot of challenges, all the time. But I would
> never change my chosen profession. So is the MCSE woth it? I think
> there are pros and cons. If you have a job, it is not so important.
> But, they are a great way of documenting you level of competance. Or
> so it seems:-)
>
> "Cliff" <Cliff@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4E6E4EC0-C332-40B1-8DA8-5A458056BB7C@microsoft.com...
>> Hey... It's not like I am a complete moron.... I have had 2 years A
>> Level computing and 3 years Computer Sciecne at Sussex Uni... A
>> couple of years working as head of IT/Administraion for a very small
>> cleaning company (No network or web pressence unfortuantely, just a
>> bunch of staff who don't know
>> much about turning on a computer) and now I am finishing
>> MCSA/MCSE....
>>
>> What I was trying to say is that basically as someone has
>> mentioned... MCSE
>> seems to imply that you should know everything there is to know about
>> absolutely everything regarding computers... But MCSE doesn't cover
>> everything... It seems to be more of a tutorial of how to use some
>> Microsoft
>> products... Nothing more... Just like a Video manual which we all
>> know can be
>> a bit difficult... But there are tons of things that MCSE doesn't
>> cover including where is the best place to go for purchasing mass
>> quantities of computing equipment and how to setup advanced physical
>> network structures...
>> Hel... I haven't even seen a server blade throughout the entire
>> course... I
>> am very disappointed... And now I am sure every employer is going to
>> expect
>> me to be a IT guru for their firm on just about every little thing
>> they can
>> think of... I haven't seen any server rooms or been given any
>> information about how much resources a computer/network needs to
>> support 10 PCs... 100 PCs.... 1000 PCs... or 1 million... It seems
>> like we just have to do things
>> by trail and error... O and to ask you guyz for help which I have
>> found very
>> entertaining but not the most helpful advice I have seen...
>>
>> Happy New Year All and Keep Up The Fun.....
>>
>>
>
>
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