Re: Life After MCSE
From: Steven L Umbach (n9rou_at_n0-spam-for-me-comcast.net)
Date: 01/04/05
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Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 03:18:03 GMT
Hi Cliff.
A MCSE is a certification that an employer would expect the holder to have a
"basic" knowledge of the Microsoft operating system such as installing
operating system, promoting domain controller, configuring dns/wins/dhcp,
joining clients to the domain, configuring users and groups, troubleshooting
connectivity/domain problems, configuring Group and security policy,
installing updates, and the basics on Remote Access, VPN, ipsec, Certificate
Services, IIS, etc.
The scenario you describe is not something that would be expected by being
an MCSE alone. That would require additional experience and be a plus
towards employment. When you go for a job or fill out a resume, be explicit
in what you know.
You can teach yourself a lot of what you mention. Routers are not that hard
to do the basics and the same for firewalls. I suggest you buy an old Cisco
router such as a 2514 - try to get one with all cables, cdroms,
transceivers and a late IOS. Do the same for a firewall such as the
Netscreen 5XP [at least version 4 OS] which has the same operating system as
their high end models. You should be able to get both for under $200 each on
Ebay. Also consider getting a switch such as the HP Procurve 2512 that is
managed and has advanced security features - usually on Ebay for around
$150. There is documentation available for those devices from the
manufactures websites if you need it. I have all these devices on my home
network lab.
Than read and train yourself a lot. There is a ton of good info for free on
the internet and I buy a lot of books on Amazon "used" for less than half of
regular price. Post questions is appropriate newsgroups when you have
further questions. MS has tons of newsgroups. The links below are a start
for more reading and an example of what is available.
http://labmice.techtarget.com/
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/default.mspx
http://www.bookpool.com/.x/m5yz2j6zkr/sm/0735618682
http://www.bookpool.com/.x/m5yz2jpm8n/sm/0735712328
http://www.bookpool.com/.x/m5yz2jsg1m/ss?qs=0735620334&x=33&y=11
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/Security/topics/network/firewall.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/guidance/avdind_0.mspx
As far as buying lots of hardware. I have not done that myself but Dell
would be a good place to start and then a place like CDW for other needs. Be
sure to have an idea what you need before purchasing and use the internet to
research ahead of time. Don't be intimidated by 100 computers in three
different sites. You might want to study for the basic Cisco certification
for CCNA to learn more about routing even if you don't plan to take the
exam. Good luck. --- Steve
"Cliff" <Cliff@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E697DFF2-614D-4F4F-B7FE-11C8FF26B96A@microsoft.com...
> Hello all
>
> I have spent the last year and a half on my MCSA/MCSE qualifications
> straight out of Uni (Computer Science)... Apparently when I started, no
> experience was required... We all know that that was a whole load of
> bull...
> I have seen soo many people come on the course and drop out because the
> volume of information they have to read let alone remember is far too much
> than a normal human being should be asked to handle... Unfortunatly none
> of
> the girls could keep up on the course... I am not saying anything bad
> apart
> from I wish they did...
>
> Well my question is this... What is it like straight out of MCSE...???
>
> Looking back on my 1.5 years of MCSA/MCSE.. There is a lot I could be
> doing... I was wondering what is a MCSE grad expected to do in the
> industry..?? Will I be expected to know how to set up a network spanning
> multiple buildings like at a university campus that is hacker proof... OK
> I
> know nothing is really hacker proof unless u lock it away.. But I haven't
> been taught much about setting up network connections like configuring
> routers, setting up backbones or whats the best way to link multiple
> buildings together... Would I need the help of Cisco professionals.. And
> if I
> was asked how much would it cost to set up a network of 100 computers,
> where
> would I go to purchase such an amount..?? Does it matter where..??
>
> I have basically gone over a scenario of my own that runs along the lines
> of
> "Can you please make a network for 100 computers that is in 3 different
> sites"... Although I can probably get down to it and do most of it.. the
> more
> I think of the implications the more I feel like crying...
>
>
> I bet it's not going to be that bad but can you guyz please give me some
> examples of your first jobs after MCSE qualifcations..?? No names of
> companies needed... I am just interested in the responsibilities you were
> given, what kind of day-to-day tasks did you do and what was the most
> difficult challenge you faced within the first 6 months of the job...
>
> Thanks to everyone or anyone who replies to this message in advance...
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