Re: Are BootCamps Brain Dumps?

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From: SomeGuy (someguy_at_microsoft.com)
Date: 11/11/04 

Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:03:02 -0000

In article <eov3pJDyEHA.3844@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>,
rowdy_yates_mcngp@yahoo.com says...
> agree with the below. also want to add.
>
> just whatever you do - DON"T CHEAT! you are paying real $$$ to go to the
> boot camp (if that's what you really want to do :-( )
>
> get as much and learn as much from it as you can. you will need it. and
> remember - if you manage to get by the HR bots and HR screeners - you will
> get interviewed by a *real* experienced senior systems guy who will look
> for signs of cheating and foul play.
>
> you are much better off just getting an MCP and angling for on the job
> experience with it. unfortunatly, if HR bots & screeners are looking for
> "MCSE" you will have to lie and try to convince them to hire you at the
> interview.
>
> decisions.. decisions...
>
> ry
>
> T-Bone wrote:
>
Thats just it, I don't want to cheat and I don't want to waste money.
I have 2 Servers and 2 desktops + a laptop here so I'm all set for a
test lab. I've already built the servers as W2K3, 1 as a DC with DNS,
WINS & DHCP + Exchange 2003 thats all configured emailing away. The
other is an old Dell Pentium Pro180 that barely meets the minimum specs
that i'm currently building as a RIS server for practicing deployments.
I've brought the MCSE Self paced training KIT core bundle and also got
the MS training kits for 270, 284 and 297 (wont be touching those last 2
for a while).
I've also invested in the trancsender test Q's for 270 and after reading
the 270 book I found I'm still only getting 65% on exam A? Admittedly
I've only gone through the book once and caught myself skim reading at
stages so I'll read it again but i'm sure the book doesn't cover things
deep enough to be able to pass in transcenders exams.

Does the exam cram book for 270 provide a more in depth cover of the
exam topics? or would that be the equivalent of braindumping???

> > "." wrote
> >> Hi All, I'm thinking of taking a boot camp type course to get myself
> >> MCSE qualified asap. What I'm after here is opinions as to it being
> >> worth me shelling out 3k + on one of these courses.
> > Probably not. Certification will get your resume past the HR bots for
> > entry level positions. Any position above that should consider experience
> > over certification.
> >
> >> My experience (on CV) is getting me interviews but because of my
> >> knowledge gaps I find it hard to get through higher level job
> >> interviews.
> > A boot camp will not fill the knowledge gaps. The purpose of a boot camp
> > is to teach you what you need to know to get certified. When it comes to
> > real-world knowledge, you wouldn't be much better off. If you are going to
> > spend money on courses, you would be better off to take some specific
> > courses on the stuff you are missing. Alternatively, take that course
> > money, buy a couple of PCs and build a home network to practice yourself.
> >
> > T-Bone
> > MCNGP XL
>
>

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