Re: mcsd to mcpd

The certs are a good way to get back into the industry and they do help
mitigate a lack of recent job experience.

Getting the certs force you to learn a well thought-out cirriculum, and have
a decent knowledge of a huge amount of material.

My problem with the camps is that you're just memorizing questions &
answers, taking the test, then repeating the process. This "cram" process is
doomed to long-term failure at any level from gradeschool through grad
school. Sure you passed the test, but it doesn't mean you know or understand
anything.

.... and at the end of the day, nobody is going to know you got your certs by
attending a camp. Nor are they going to care. They're only going to know,
"Wow. That person knows their stuff." or "Wow. How did they ever get through
the interview process?".

Other things that I've found that help is a blog. Prior to interviewing
someone, I read their blog entries (if any). That's an excellent medium for
me to try to decide, "Does this person have a clue?".

--
Chris Mullins, MCSD.NET, MCPD:Enterprise, MVP C#
http://www.coversant.net/blogs/cmullins

"Emaa" <Emaa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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That's funny, if I do end up taking a boot camp for my certification, I
will
remember this conversation.

Just to let you know, I am a Software Developer with a Masters in Computer
Engg and couple years of work experience. But I have been out of the
industry
for three years and thus have to find a way to get into the industry.
Everybody needs a proof that I can do my job and without a recent work
experience, a certification would be my best bet.

The reason that I am still wanting to take up a Boot Camp with my IT
background is the time and resources.

How else do you think I could get certified other than reading books on my
own?

Thanks for the advice.
"Chris Mullins [MVP]" wrote:

I've never attended a boot camp, nor have I seriously looked into
attending
one.

I have interacted with a number of people who achieved their
certifications
(especially the MCSE's) through boot camps. My impression of boot camps,
and
the resulting value of the certifications has not been a positive one.

Other Guy: "I got my MCSE last year by attending this boot camp."

Me: "Great. Can you bring this new machine up to date with patches, join
it
to the AD, create a new AD account for the guy we just hired, set him up
with admin rights on his local box, and get him setup in Exchange as
well?"

Other Guy: "Whoa. That may take a few days."

Me: "Nevermind. I'll do it."

I *swear* I've had this EXACT conversation on more than one occasion.

(For those not paying attentation, this should take about 15 minutes.
Tops!)

--
Chris Mullins, MCSD.NET, MCPD:Enterprise, MVP C#
http://www.coversant.net/blogs/cmullins

"Emaa" <Emaa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Chris,

I am planing to go in for a Boot Camp and am trying to find more about
the
credibility of CED Solutions who offer Boot Camps. I was wondering if
you
had
a
more information regarding the same?

Thanks.

"Chris Mullins [MVP]" wrote:

I've got two words to answer that question:

Boot Camp.


--
Chris Mullins, MCSD.NET, MCPD:Enterprise, MVP C#
http://www.coversant.net/blogs/cmullins

"Manno" <Manno@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:C365983C-133C-49C6-B3FE-994D8BF482EC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Are you sure you are an MCSD? If you are, why do you ask such a
stupid
question like this when you should the one giving out answers to
such
questions. How did you become an MCSD? Wih your level, you need to
know
what's up.

Wake up!
--
Jean-Louis
MCAD,MCSD
West Palm Beach, FL


"SirReadAlot" wrote:

Hi guess,

What exams do i need to take to become mcpd. I am already mcsd.net.

I know I need two exams in order to upgrade to mcpd. (Exam 70-553)
and
(Exam
70-554)

but how come i can't find any books with the above title.

do i need to buy mcts books. for example

(Exam 70-553) do i need these book?

MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-526): Microsoft .Net
Framework
2.0
Windows-Based Client Development

MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-528): Microsoft .NET
Framework
2.0
Web-Based Client Development

MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exam 70-536): Microsoft .NET
Framework
2.0-Application Development Foundation


for exam 70-554

MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exams 70-529): Microsoft .NET
Framework
2.0
Distributed Application Development

MCPD Self-Paced Training Kit (Exams 70-549): Designing and
Developing
Enterprise Applications Using the Microsoft .NET Framework
(available
late
2006)

CLR via C#: Applied Microsoft .NET Framework Programming, second
edition

Debugging, Testing, and Tuning Microsoft .NET 2.0 Applications

Programming Microsoft Visual C# 2005: The Language

Programming Microsoft Visual Basic 2005: The Language

see this site
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcpd/entapp/default.mspx


thanks








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