Re: Log off users by the server

From: Herb Martin (news_at_LearnQuick.com)
Date: 02/12/04 

Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:06:26 -0600

Since I didn't respond to your message or criticize your (lack of a direct)
answer,
and you chose to respond to mine with an explanation, may I presume you
disapprove
of MY CHOICE to just help the guy?

I actually believed that you missed his point -- he clarified that in
another response so
this is confirmed.

My response might have included the "answer" even if I had not believed his
question
to be misinterpreted. Personally I have no problem with "RTFM" as long as
someone
will just tell me which manual and preferable which page if they bother to
give such
sometimes gratuitous advice. (It's gratuitous because they fools that won't
try help will
ignore it and those that don't know better, just don't know better and
deserve some
real help AND a lesson on how to help themselves.)

If you read enough of my posts you will find several patterns: Even when I
suggest a
search, I almost always include either SOME help, or SOME indication of
where or
what to search. Usually, I will see and respond to the ACTUAL question
while others
my get sidetracked answering -- or not answering -- a question that wasn't
asked.

You will also notice that I don't particularly suffer the "know it alls who
don't." I usually
have much less patience with such tyros than with the actual newbies who are
trying to
learn and not look smart.

Of course, in this case, I actually mentioned the answer to the possible
question to
eliminate that from the discussion in order to move on to the actual (or at
least at that
time, apparent) question. 

-- 
Herb Martin
"Marko" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7E572C36-00D0-40D0-8A15-958C25D6F5D4@microsoft.com...
>
>
>      ----- Herb Martin wrote: -----
>
>
> Hello Herb
>
> I don't mind helping people.
>
> I have one condition: They must appear to have
> at least tried to help themselves.
>
> Imad is not such a person.
>
> If he has ever ventured into account management,
> he would have noticed the Logon Hours and the Logon
> To options for defining hours and workstation access
> for a user.  Somebody who has started Windows Server
> administration in the last day or so may be the exception
> to this.  Otherwise, they are driving Windows with their
> eyes shut.
>
> Further, my advice to press F1 is spot on.  In the process
> of looking through the help files, he would quickly discover
> Search.  If you type "Logon Hours" into the search, it comes
> back with 13 results.  I know this because I tried it on my
> Win2K server.  The first thing to come up on Net User
> commands actually solves his problem.
>
> A search on User Logon brings up 276 possibilities.  Some of
> these on "account management" (another good search topic)
> are quite relevant to the same problem.
>
> Pretty soon, he would be likely to discover policies and the one
> specifically relating to logging off users when their hours expire.
>
>
> If this guy worked for me, I would do the same thing.  I would
> never just give him the answer to such a basic, mundane task.
>
> "Catch a fish for a man and he will eat for one day.
> Teach him to fish, and he will learn to feed himself"
>
> So why spoon feed people who would obviously benefit from
> learning how to solve their own problems?

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