Re: Microsoft Skills Assessment vs Transcender

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From: payaqa (payaqa_at_163.com)
Date: 09/03/04


Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 11:28:04 +0800

I think 70-315, 70-316 & 70-320 is a valid combination. As I think, to be an
MCAD, 70-320 is compulsory to pass.
But you can choose either of 70-315 or 70-316. And what about the third one
? You can choose 70-229.
So, it means 70-320, 70-316 & 70-229 is a valid combination. Also, 70-320,
70-315 & 70-229 is valid too.
So I think all the below combinations are valid.
a) 1. 70-310 or 70-320 (must have)
      2. 70-306 or 70-316
      3. 70-305 or 70-315

b) 1. 70-310 or 70-320 (must have)
      2. 70-306 or 70-316
      3. 70-229 or other elective exams(exclude 70-305 & 70-315)

c) 1. 70-310 or 70-320 (must have)
     2. 70-305 or 70-315
     3. 70-229 or other elective exams(exclude 70-306 & 70-316)

I will probably take 70-320 next week. I don't know if my assertion is
right. But I will let you know if it really works ASAP.

"Frank Mamone" <frankmnospam@canada.com> ????
news:uuv1xsTkEHA.3072@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for the feedback and the coupon code!
>
> By the way did you ever try the test on Microsoft Skills Assessment site?
> The link is in the original message in this thread.
>
> If you have a few minutes (30 questions) take look at the 70-315 and tell
us
> how that compares to the real thing. I heard that MeasureUp is more
> difficult than the real thing.
>
> Frank M.
>
>
>
> "Brad" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> news:10jf2g6rnu80s1b@corp.supernews.com...
> > I don't think there's an official FAQ, although maybe there should be.
> > There are FAQs on the Microsoft Learning web site about MCP and MCAD,
I'm
> > sure.
> >
> > I used the MS Press self-paced training kit set for all three exams. A
> > little dry sometimes, a few mistakes in the sample code (the web apps
and
> > web services books in particular looked like the C# examples were an
> > afterthought), and a few small topics probably were missing, but overall
a
> > good review for the exam and coverage of the major topic areas. A lot
of
> > people swear by Kalani's books for C# or that guy that writes the books
> for
> > VB.NET (can't remember the name right now, but its posted around here
> > somewhere). They may have more/better examples and clearer
explanations.
> >
> > Beyond that I used the MeasureUp exams and found them to be a pretty
good
> > preparation for all of the exams and gave me a good idea of what I would
> > encounter. If you decide to use MeasureUp, here's a little tip: go to
> > Dice.com (free), look under Career Resources, then under Certification,
> and
> > get a 25% discount code. The exams that come with the training kit are
> > challenging, but I didn't use them enough to say how well they really
> match
> > the exams overall.
> >
> > The real exams are challenging, but if you know your stuff pretty well
and
> > you take your time then on almost every question you can eliminate all
but
> > one or two answers.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Brad
> >
> >
> >
> > "Frank Mamone" <frankmnospam@canada.com> wrote in message
> > news:ureVVGQkEHA.2696@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > Congratulations Brad!
> > >
> > > Thanks for confirming this. I am new to this newsgroup so I wasn't
> aware.
> > >
> > > Is there an FAQ for this group? If that question is not in there maybe
> it
> > > should be added.
> > >
> > > What did you use to study? How did you find the real exam compared to
> your
> > > study material?
> > >
> > > -Frank
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Brad" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> > > news:10jde37i57ihj93@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > I don't know how many freakin' times this has to come up (and I'm
not
> > > > ripping on you, Frank, honestly I'm not) but let me just state:
> > > >
> > > > Windows Apps, Web Apps, and XML Web Services, in whatever
language...
> > > >
> > > > IS A VALID COMBINATION FOR MCAD.
> > > >
> > > > I have recently completed just these requirements in C# and I
> >>>AM<<<
> > > MCAD
> > > > certified.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Frank Mamone" <frankmnospam@canada.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:uVwRXWGkEHA.384@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > > However, if you look here:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcad/requirements.asp
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It says:
> > > > >
> > > > > If you use Exam 70-305 or 70-315 to satisfy the core exam
> requirement,
> > > you
> > > > > may use either Exam 70-306 or 70-316 as an elective.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you use Exam 70-306 or 70-316 to satisfy the core exam
> requirement,
> > > you
> > > > > may use either Exam 70-305 or 70-315 as an elective.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So , when Kalani says "Opposite technology" he means Web as
opposed
> > to
> > > > > Window-based , NOT language.
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course, this is assuming that Microsoft's website is correct.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Frank
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Frank Mamone" <frankmnospam@canada.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:ukHQmRGkEHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > Sri,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It would seem so at first glance. However, if you read a little
> > > further
> > > > > > you'll see (page 1114 70-315 books by Kalani):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "You can also count as an elective one of the four core exams
> > > > > > 70-305,70-306,70-315,70-316. The one you can count as an
elective
> is
> > > the
> > > > > > exam from the opposite technology and language from the exam
that
> > you
> > > > > > counted as a core exam. For example if you take the C# Web
> > Application
> > > > > > Exam(70-315) as a core exam, you can take the Visual Basic .NET
> > > > > > Windows-based Application exam (70-306)."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, according to that statement the combination would indeed be
> > > invalid.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would like to hear from someone at Microsoft or certified
MCAD's
> > to
> > > > get
> > > > > a
> > > > > > definite answer though. I personally would like to do the
> > > Windows-based
> > > > > > apps, but stay in C#.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Frank
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Sri" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:454e01c49053$7001fbc0$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > hi u gave as u completed 70-315 and 316, r u intrested to
> > > > > > > finish MCAD ,then u check once whthere its a valid
> > > > > > > combination for MCAD(70-315,316,320) ,r u using kalani's
> > > > > > > book for preparation if so, at the end of book u have
> > > > > > > Certification Process ,read the lines there ,according to
> > > > > > > it 315,316,320 is not a valid combination for mcad(see on
> > > > > > > page number 1094 in 316 book),Even I don't know exactly
> > > > > > > anyhow make it confirm about it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > >I think Transcender is a good choice. Indeed, there're
> > > > > > > some real questions
> > > > > > > >in the Transcender, but very few. I rely on the
> > > > > > > Transcender to pass 70-315 &
> > > > > > > >316. And now preparing for the 70-320.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >.
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> > > > > >
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