Re: Is there any specialisation Cert?

From: Mal (anonymous_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 03/20/04

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    Look at the Internet Explorer WebControls (I think at
    gotdotnet). It contains a pure ASP.NET server control
    tree view. Don't know if it will work on Netscape though -
     I think that getting a true cross browser control that's
    as complex as a treeview for free is unlikely.

    I have tested it on IE for MAC though and it works a
    treat.

    And yes it's free.

    mal
    >-----Original Message-----
    >One of the UI aspect of windows since the early days
    has been the tree
    >view (eg.explorer)
    >Have you ever wondered why explorer use tree view and
    keep doing that?
    >
    >And you mentioned VS.NET UI yourself.
    >
    >Tree view is essential to windows UI . And building an
    asp.net tree view
    >is for me one of these things worth spending time on as
    a programmer.
    >But again it requires more then just Cert level skills
    and that was my
    >point.
    >Neither you become clever on Http handlers and http
    modules after completing
    >the ASP.NET MCP exam.
    >Actually my exam did not mention either http module or
    http handlers.
    >I understand that these are areas that requires some
    self study but again
    >the are so important to me that there should maybe be
    some kind of appetite
    >awaking
    >for people desiring to no more about these subject.
    >
    >I know that the web apps self paced kit contain a
    chapter called advanced
    >web forms programming
    >and admint that there is more to web programming then
    you can cover in a
    >single book or
    >exam .
    > But maybe there should be an intermediate and advanced
    or specialised cert.
    >
    >Hey sorry but that is just me and my little theory.
    >
    >I have seen one approch for tree view on code project:
    >http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/xml_xslt_xhtml_tree_
    _aspx.asp
    >This happens to mainly be a javascript and Xml thing.
    >
    >I wish i could find a pure custom server control approch.
    >
    >
    >Cheers!
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    ><Eric> wrote in message news:%
    23fwzcOqCEHA.2888@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    >> bredal Jensen wrote:
    >>
    >> > There are situation where you need to present data
    in a tree
    >> > hierachical way.
    >> > And i doubt you are not aware of this.
    >> > I thought , the idea about server controls was that
    you could present
    >> > data the way you want
    >> > by creating a custum control or composite control.
    >> > But i now see that you need more then asp.net web
    application
    >> > programming skills to do this kind of thing.
    >>
    >> I think TreeViews are overused in Windows apps. I like
    them in some
    >> cases, like the Visual Studio Server Explorer. But In
    most cases you
    >> can partition the application into various other
    master-detail layouts.
    >>
    >> For example, instead of:
    >>
    >> - Database Name
    >> - Table List
    >> - Table1
    >> - Columns
    >>
    >> You could let people select a DB in a combo box, then
    show the tables
    >> in a list box. Then show the columns in a Repeater or
    DataView.
    >>
    >> This is just one example - I'm not saying it is best
    to avoid the
    >> TreeView in all cases. But, a good programmer has to
    learn how to use
    >> the tools he has.
    >>
    >> I've seen some users who don't like TreeViews. They
    sometimes get
    >> confused about the little plus signs - they can skip
    over things by
    >> mistake because they didn't expand the node.
    >>
    >> Eric
    >
    >
    >.
    >


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