Re: SBS2K Disaster recovery using backup / restore without Outlook
- From: John Mc <JohnMc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 04:56:00 -0800
Andrew,
Having the full set of disks etc in front of me, the outlook and fontpage
license keys are on a card (orange labels) that was mixed in with the CDs.
I would have thought that the license key would be in a client pc that
installed outlook automatically when the pc was first joined to the domain.
(all - please let me know if I am out of line with this comment)
Probably not much help...
Cheers,
"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
And SBS 2000 had the following CDs:.
three CDs... SBS setup (CD1, CD2, CD3)
one CD... MS Outlook 2000 SR-1
one CD... SBS 2000 Service Packs
one CD... SBS 2000 - Windows 200 Cusotmer Support and Diagnostic Tools
two CDs... FrontPage 2000 SR-1 (CD 1, CD2)
On top of this was:
SBS 2000 SP1a (final update to SBS 2000; available via download or order CD)
Outlook 2002 (available via order CD only)
Small Business Server 2000 Service Pack 1a
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=f4fc58d0-1fac-4927-84d7-189fa1b690be&displaylang=en
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Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
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"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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As long as SBS is the only domain controller on the network, an
authoritative rstore and a non-authoritative restore will be the same:
boot into Directory Services Restore Mode, restore the system state from a
backup, reboot
Outlook 2000 Product Key...
From your cuurent restore, go the following registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\BackOffice
In the right pane, look for the following key: OutlookPID
Write down the Outlook product key for future reference.
Reference:
Cannot Enter Outlook 2000 CD Key Number During Small Business Server 2000
Setup
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/288422
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Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
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"AndrewM" <AndrewM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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By starting fresh, i meant do a new restore... I can't reinstall SBS
2000,
because SBS wants a key for Outlook, and as its not on the SBS CD with
the
SBS key, I'm guessing we must have had a separate CD for Outlook which we
must have trashed as it's an old rev :(
Good point on the backup potentially backing up corrupted files. I do
have
an older one I can use, so it's worth a try.
I did use DSRM to restore the backup, but never saw an option for
authoritative vs non-authoritative - could it be superfluous in SBS?
"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
Authoratative or non-Authoratative asre done by going restarting the
domain
controller in DSRM (Directory Services Resote Mode) and performing the
System restore.
Yep, I think I'd start with a fresh install and just re-create
everything
manually without a restore. I don't think I'd trust the restore you
have
now. It means that you'll need to rejoin the workstations to the new
domain
you create, though and this could produce some pain for the users as
they'll
get a fresh profile. (If you have a backup from a week or so ago, I
suppose
you could try a restore with it if you wanted to).
Exchange may be a pain point. I think you may be able to use the
following
KB article:
How to move Exchange 2000 to new hardware and keep the same server name
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/297289
You may even be able to reinstall SBS 2000 fresh withthe same server
name,
domain, name, etc., then set the <blank> Exchange databases to be
overwritten and do a restore from your present backup. (This assumes
the
Exchange part of your backup is good).
I suspect that part of your backup are corrupt or missing due to the
disk
failures (may have been failing for some time). I don't think a swing
migration will help you because it appears your active directory isn't
completely intact.
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Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
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"AndrewM" <AndrewM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks for the reply as well Merv.
I've recovered most of the original C: disk to a backup disk, but
there
are
quite a few missing files / folders, so it's not usable for anything
but
a
reference.
Starting with a new C disk, the system is almost back to normal, but
not
quite. I did pretty much what you suggested - the only bit I couldn't
do
was
an "authoritative" restore of system state - I never saw that option
anywhere. However I presume as this is SBS there is no replication and
that
shouldn't be an issue. FWIW my final System State backup was taken
less
than
24 hours before the crash.
BUT... I have some issues remaining, the main ones being:
1) I'm seeing events related I think to Group Policy. One is that the
server
service was unable to restore the NETLOGON share because the directory
sysvol\<domain>\ SCRIPTS doesn't exist. In fact the sysvol\<domain>
directory
is completely empty. This could explain a "userenv" event I'm also
seeing:
"Windows cannot access the file gpt.ini for GPO. The file must be
present
at
the location <>. (). Group Policy processing aborted. " I don't
understand
why these files weren't restored when I restored the system state?
2) Equally I'm not convinced the admin's registry hive was restored,
since
when I run Outlook, it wants to install the program again (and just
hangs
on
that dialog). Looking in the registry for HKLM I don't see any
settings
for
MS Office
3) Explorer hangs when I try and browse C:\winnt, but it does show the
status line. I can traverse it though when I browse subdirectories
(but I
can't browse system32). Works OK in safe mode
4) Can't change Service settings (eg to disable startup), except in
safe
mode
At this poit I'm wondering whether to just start over!
"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
Hi Andrew,
Presuming that you had SBS 2000 SP1a installed when you did the last
backup:
(as SG said)...
Install base Windows 2000 Server from CD1
Install Windows 2000 SP4
Set up partitions exactly as they were before the disaster
Install any tape drivers (if necessary)
Do authoratative install of system state
Windows 2000 Server Downloads
(includes Win2K SP4)
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsserver/2000/bb735341.aspx
Chapter 26 - Disaster Recovery (SBS 2000)
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:nzC9V0PSOc0J:www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sbs/2000/reskit/sbrk0026.mspx+sbs+2000+authoritative+restore&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
Words from Jeff Middleton (SBS-MVP) on bare metal restore
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz2000/browse_thread/thread/7341270dedfb4deb/c478d0c423d42faa?hl=en&lnk=st&q=Disaster+recovery+for+a+SBS2000+server#c478d0c423d42faa
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"AndrewM" <AndrewM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks for the reply - I'm glad the groups haven't been destroyed
just
yet!!
The documents I read said and/or implied you had to do a basic
install
of
SBS as well - I'm _really_ glad if that's not the case! My options
look
a
lot
better :)
- Andrew
"SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" wrote:
typical. I call for the group to be destroyed and _immediately_
there
is
a
legitimate SBS 2000 question.
"AndrewM" <AndrewM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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We've had a 2-disk failure (main system disk and the Exchange IS
disk),
with
the current status of the SCSI disks indeterminate. Being my
only
SCSI
machine, I have limited options for moving drives around, and
rather
than
risk disk recovery programs further messing up the drives, I
decided
to
buy a
new SCSI disk with the intention of reinstalling SBS2000 then
restoring
a
recent backup on top of it.
I got through the regular Win2k Server portion of the
installation
and
into
the SBS2K-specific installation. I then got prompted for the
product
keys
for
SBS (no problem) and Outlook - big problem! The key isn't on the
SBS
packaging, and as this is a really old version of Outlook, we
must
have
unwittingly trashed the original media as being surplus to
requirements. I
did find Outlook 2000 on another server of ours and I used a
key-extractor
to
get the key, but the SBS install didn't accept it. Even with the
key, I
don't
know if it needs the physical media as well to perform the
install,
or
whether the programs are also on the SBS media.
Does anyone have any suggestions for working round this or any
alternate
recovery strategies?
I was hoping this server would last until SBS2008 got released
:(
Thanks,
- Andrew
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