Re: file rights issue...
- From: "John Oliver, Jr. [MVP]" <jcoliverjr@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 11:53:23 -0500
I would give BV a call again and ask them if they have any clients running
this in a domain environment, Win2K at least. I am surprised they do not
have a running lab setup to assist in troubleshooting. To me this wreaks
of security issues with the program itself but they will need to confirm
this. Domain Admin has rights to everything so not being able to access the
program while logged in as Domain Administrator points me in this direction.
If you have another test box, create your own test environment to see if you
can replicate the issue.
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John Oliver, Jr
MCSE, MCT, CCNA
Exchange MVP 2007
Microsoft Certified Partner
"Brad Pears" <bradp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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John, I tried that - no go. Very strange is it not???
Thanks, Brad
"John Oliver, Jr. [MVP]" <jcoliverjr@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Brad,
What happens if you remove the Everyone Group and add Domain Users Group?
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John Oliver, Jr
MCSE, MCT, CCNA
Exchange MVP 2007
Microsoft Certified Partner
"Brad Pears" <bradp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Yes, they do have TS support. We have been running on TS no probs all
along - and it still works now - it's just that they are unable to
access the files through the BV app UNLESS the everyone group has been
granted full access to the directory. This just started after moving the
BV accounting files over to the WIn2K machine where domain rights are
now being applied. Before, when we had the data on the NT box, it was
not part of the domain so no domain rights were being used - just the
local NT servers user rights were being used. I have BV tech support
working on it... Just thought someone may have run across similiar
problems before...
PS... No, the users do not need local admin rights and to test that
theory, I could not even access the data using BV and I am a domain
admin. I gave domain admins full acccess the the direcoties and still no
go! Only the addition of the 'everyone' group seems to solve the
issue...
Thanks,
Brad
"John Oliver, Jr. [MVP]" <jcoliverjr@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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You need to get with BV again and ask them what are the required
permissions to run there App on both the client workstations and
Terminal Server. On the client machines, do the users need to have
Local Admin rights? The Terminal Server is an entirely different
issue. They first need to have support for their product on TS session.
Is this the case?
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John Oliver, Jr
MCSE, MCT, CCNA
Exchange MVP 2007
Microsoft Certified Partner
"Brad Pears" <bradp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I am not sure if this is an issue related to Windows 2000 file security
or not but thought I'd post my issue here to see if anyone has
experienced this type of thing before.
We use an accounting package called Business Visions (BV). The version
of BV we are running uses an SQL DB engine called Pervasive SQL to
access the data. The pervasive server engine is running as a service
on our Windows 2000 SQL server - which is also where the accounting
data is stored (not part of the SQL server database). There are no
conflicts with both of these SQL products running on the same machine.
Accounting users run the Business Visions application either locally
(on their domain Windows XP workstations) or through a Windows 2003
terminal server session. When the BV application starts it
automatically kicks off a Pervasive SQL client - which then accesses
the accounting data on the Windows 2000 server through the pervasive
SQL gateway service running there. This all works very well - as long
as the 'everyone' group has been given full permissions to the
accounting data.
Since we can not have our accounting data available to the 'everyone'
group :-), I need to figure out WHY this is so... As soon as I remove
the 'everyone' group, leaving me with the other requried groups
there - (and they have also been given full access), the users are
unable to access the data through BV! I even tried having them browse
to the actual data folders and create a new file, rename a file etc...
and all those rights appear to be ok - so I do not know what
difference adding the 'everyone ' group makes - but it is certainly
changing something!
As a side note, we recently migrated this accounting data from an NT
4.0 SP6 machine and we had NO problems with file access at all when
the data was on that machine. However, the NT machine was not part of
the domain - it was it's own workgroup - so no domain rights applied
there. Now that we have moved the data to a Windwos 2000 machine in
our domain, windows domain security rights now apply and we are having
the problems.
Has anyone ever seen this type of a problem before?? Business Visions
tech support can not figure it out. At least not the techs that I have
talked to. It fails when BV is run on an XP machine (locally) and
through a Win2K3 terminal servers session. The users do have rightsd
to the folders because they can browse there and make changes to files
in there. I am at a loss!!!
Help!
Thanks, Brad
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