Re: ISA Event

From: Chad A. Gross [SBS Community Member] (chad.gross_at_laytonflower.nospam.com)
Date: 10/05/04

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    Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 23:07:07 -0500
    
    

    Well Jack,

    I haven't seen this happen before - as I'm sure you know, most of the stuff
    out there indicates socket pooling, but since that has been tried, it's
    obviously not it. However, I did find one obscure reference that said
    applying ISA SP1 resolved the issue. So it's worth asking - is this SBS
    up-to-date on patches? (Currently ISA should be at SP2)

    -- 
    Chad A. Gross - SBS MVP
    SBS ROCKS!
    www.msmvps.com/cgross
    www.gosbs.org
    Jack wrote:
    > Hi Chad,
    > The previous message was more a shot at SuperGrumby.
    > Here is the message in the event viewer.
    > The event is 14148:
    >
    > Web Proxy service failed to bind its socket to 192.168.4.9 port 443.
    > This could be caused by another service that is already using the
    > same port or by a network interface card that is not functional. The
    > error code specified in the Data area of the event properties
    > indicates the cause of the failure. For more information about this
    > event, see ISA Server Help.
    >
    >
    >
    > I did go to eventid.net and the articles i read said either disable
    > socketpooling which i did or change the port on the website. To use
    > https in isa you need a server publishing rule. The issue is if i
    > change the port in iis then i still have to make  a new publishing
    > rule in ISA reflecting the new port. I created a protocol rule with
    > the new port eg: i replaced 443 with 4433 but i still got the error
    > as iis and isa are listeneng on the same port. Disableing
    > socketpooling works fine on port 80 but i want to use SSL on 443.
    > It is really frustrating IIS and ISA together on sbs.
    > Cheers
    > Jack.
    >
    > "Chad A. Gross [SBS Community Member]"
    > <chad.gross@laytonflower.nospam.com> wrote in message
    > news:#mtgJ9nqEHA.1952@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    >> Nice try, but I'm not going to bite on that one   :^)
    >>
    >> What is the exact error you're getting in the event viewer?  Have you
    >> checked it against eventid.net?  What 3rd party apps are running on
    >> this box (if any).  Besides this web site you're working with here,
    >> has anything else been done to IIS?
    >>
    >> --
    >>
    >> Chad A. Gross - SBS MVP
    >> SBS ROCKS!
    >>
    >> www.msmvps.com/cgross
    >> www.gosbs.org
    >>
    >>
    >> Jack wrote:
    >>> The fix you reckon works didn't. i still get the same message in the
    >>> event viewer. I am not bothering with sbs2k i am installing 2003 at
    >>> least i can get it to work ok.
    >>> It is funny how MVP's put down MCSE's when MVP isn't even a
    >>> certification. It is really funny  you can say we MVP's fix up
    >>> problems MCSE did, you must be mental. Why don't you people go and
    >>> pay some money and get a proper certification against your name? I
    >>> have noticed all you guys do is go to the knowledge base or paste a
    >>> link to the knowledge base, well to pass an exam you need to know
    >>> how
    >>> to fix and troubleshoot without having to use the ms website.
    >>> Jack.
    >>>
    >>> Jack.
    >>>
    >>> "Chad A. Gross [SBS Community Member]"
    >>> <chad.gross@laytonflower.nospam.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:eCq3uHJpEHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    >>>> LOL . . .   Mick, it's so nice to see that your penchant for
    >>>> subtlety hasn't changed . . .   ;^)
    >>>>
    >>>> Jack - for the record, he is right.  The Configure IIS task on the
    >>>> To Do List will disable socket pooling, and when you run the ICW
    >>>> you have the option to publish your website, which will create the
    >>>> necessary web publishing rule within ISA.
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>>
    >>>> Chad A. Gross - SBS MVP
    >>>> SBS ROCKS!
    >>>>
    >>>> www.msmvps.com/cgross
    >>>> www.gosbs.org
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> SuperGumby [SBS MVP] wrote:
    >>>>> tickles my fancy that does.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The man who gives the right answer is lambasted while the man
    >>>>> giving the wrong one is thanked.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "Jack" <jack30@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:#q9twSHpEHA.896@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>> Thanks Chad
    >>>>>> Thats the answer i was after and all i wanted from the start.
    >>>>>> I wasn't having a go at dudes that use sbs  i was having a go at
    >>>>>> microsoft as in all my courses and tests there is no sbs
    >>>>>> questions they don't teach you about how to run sbs server
    >>>>>> studying mcse. I realised it was different unlike some people i
    >>>>>> know that only use enterprise and have egos thinking they can
    >>>>>> fix all ms products I
    >>>>>> came here so I don't stuff the sbs server up eg: I have never
    >>>>>> used
    >>>>>> a domain controller that pops mail i am used to mail servers so
    >>>>>> that
    >>>>>> was an eye opener as exchange enterprise doesn't come with any
    >>>>>> pop connector.
    >>>>>> But the good thing is now i will know both worlds even though i
    >>>>>> am not used to running so many wizards i will learn them so
    >>>>>> thanks again.
    >>>>>> Cheers
    >>>>>> Jack
    >>>>>> "Chad A. Gross [SBS Community Member]"
    >>>>>> <chad.gross@laytonflower.nospam.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>> news:ugxRLqDpEHA.648@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>> Jack -
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> It sounds like you're trying to bind an IIS website to port 443
    >>>>>>> on your external interface.  This isn't going to happen because
    >>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>> ISA web listeners are bound to 80 & 443 on your external
    >>>>>>> interface. What you want to do is create a web publishing rule
    >>>>>>> in ISA.  Open
    >>>>>>> ISA Management, expand Servers & Arrays | <servername> |
    >>>>>>> Publishing
    >>>>>>>> Web Publing Rules.
    >>>>> Click
    >>>>>>> Action | New | Rule.  Follow the wizard to create a new web
    >>>>>>> publishing rule to publish your web site.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> The reason you want to do it this way (instead of directly
    >>>>>>> binding the website to the external interface) is to take
    >>>>>>> advantage of the application-level filtering that ISA gives you.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> As for the wizards, they're there so we can easily & quickly fix
    >>>>>>> an SBS and get it to a recommended configuration after an
    >>>>>>> Enterprise
    >>>>>>> MCSE screws it up . . .   ;^)   That is nothing against you
    >>>>>>> personally - most smallbiz IT consultants would have a hard time
    >>>>>>> adjusting to an enterprise deployment. The big difference is
    >>>>>>> that
    >>>>>>> we know we'd have to learn new things to fit into that
    >>>>>>> environment. All to often, the enterprise level tech assumes
    >>>>>>> that SBS is just
    >>>>>>> these 4 products installed on one box.  What they overlook is
    >>>>>>> that SBS is much more than the sum of it's parts, and the fact
    >>>>>>> that we have IIS, Exchange & ISA on our one & only DC means
    >>>>>>> that we do things slightly differently.  More often than not,
    >>>>>>> they don't respect that they may have to learn something to get
    >>>>>>> this box to sing.  All of us have our own real-world
    >>>>>>> experiences of cleaning
    >>>>>>> up after the enterprise MCSE who tried to set up SBS . . .   :^)
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> As for the security - we're all aware that SBS breaks MS' own
    >>>>>>> rules regarding ISA - and we'd love to be able to pull that off
    >>>>>>> and put
    >>>>>>> in on a separate server.  However, our threat vectors down here
    >>>>>>> are slightly different that the enterprise.  Our main threat
    >>>>>>> isn't the fact that our ISA is on our DC - no, our main threat
    >>>>>>> is our
    >>>>>>> desktops, and poorly written smallbiz apps (QuickBooks) that
    >>>>>>> require local Administrator rights, etc.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Back to the wizards - you do realize that the wizards write log
    >>>>>>> files that tell you what they did?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Chad A. Gross - SBS MVP
    >>>>>>> SBS ROCKS!
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> www.msmvps.com/cgross
    >>>>>>> www.gosbs.org
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Jack wrote:
    >>>>>>>> Mate, just face the fact that you don't know how to fix my
    >>>>>>>> problem. I don't know by what you mean the hard way? I ran the
    >>>>>>>> wizards in the to do list and it didn't fix the problem just
    >>>>>>>> like you recommended. SBS is  basicly made for companys who
    >>>>>>>> don't
    >>>>>>>> really have a fulltime administrator and thats why there is so
    >>>>>>>> many wizards. You dont get all those wizards in enterprise
    >>>>>>>> edition and that makes  a whole lot of difference when
    >>>>>>>> troubleshooting a problem as you need to know the program not
    >>>>>>>> just how to run a
    >>>>>>>> wizard. How do you know a wizard worked as they don't tell you
    >>>>>>>> where wizard makes changes so how can you troubleshoot a
    >>>>>>>> problem
    >>>>>>>> if you don't know where the exact changes are made.I would
    >>>>>>>> rather make the changes myself even though it might take a bit
    >>>>>>>> longer at lease you know what happened step by step if there
    >>>>>>>> is a problem down the track so you know where to fix the
    >>>>>>>> problem .And how can you undo wizards. You can't. You just
    >>>>>>>> rerun them. dodgy.
    >>>>>>>> Jack
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@your.nellie> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>> news:#YN6t43oEHA.3460@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>>>> and I feel sorry for people who do things the hard way.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> "Jack" <jack2007a@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>> news:#j996I3oEHA.800@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>>>>> Hi, when i said i am new to sbs 2k i mean't new to having all
    >>>>>>>>>> apps on the same box. I use windows Advanced server 2003 in
    >>>>>>>>>> an enterprise with a multiple domain structure with seperate
    >>>>>>>>>> boxes for ISA, Exchange etc. I am currently Studying my MCSE
    >>>>>>>>>> 2003 and as the books say.....Don't have isa and iss on the
    >>>>>>>>>> same box. MS recommend having the seperate scenario for
    >>>>>>>>>> security purposes
    >>>>>>>>>> even exchange should be seperate. Basicly SBS breaks their
    >>>>>>>>>> own rules. I have also noticed that alot of the services are
    >>>>>>>>>> not
    >>>>>>>>>> even being used on sbs, What a waste. I feel sorry for people
    >>>>>>>>>> who just use sbs as they don't get to see the full function
    >>>>>>>>>> of Forest wide domain structure and all the services that
    >>>>>>>>>> come
    >>>>>>>>>> with it. To answer your question i did use the to do list.
    >>>>>>>>>> The iis section in yhe list just runs a wizard which does
    >>>>>>>>>> exactly
    >>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>> same thing as i did in the command prompt (Disabled
    >>>>>>>>>> socketpooling) In sbs 2003 it is easy to do using httpcfg but
    >>>>>>>>>> not 2k.
    >>>>>>>>>> I just need to know how to disablesocketpooling for port 443
    >>>>>>>>>> rather than just 80 without having to change the port which
    >>>>>>>>>> will work. Thanks
    >>>>>>>>>> Jack.
    >>>>>>>>>> "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@your.nellie> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>> news:u8thTa8nEHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>>>>>> It says nothing of the sort, there is an inference that
    >>>>>>>>>>> socket pooling has been disabled, if you stretch your
    >>>>>>>>>>> imagination a long way, all you really present is a single
    >>>>>>>>>>> line of netstat output. But hey, what's the big deal.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> More important than any measure you may have manually taken
    >>>>>>>>>>> I'm interested to find out whether you have completed (at
    >>>>>>>>>>> least) the to-do list items I refer to and hopefully the
    >>>>>>>>>>> full to-do list. I don't want to know if you have manually
    >>>>>>>>>>> performed the functions you believe are accomplished by the
    >>>>>>>>>>> to-do list items, I wanna
    >>>>>>>>>>> know if you have completed the to-do list. Main reason being
    >>>>>>>>>>> that someone who had completed the to-do list would not
    >>>>>>>>>>> normally experience the problem you are experiencing.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> Why do you wish to move the 'exchange virtual servers'? what
    >>>>>>>>>>> do you believe you will accomplish by doing this? As the
    >>>>>>>>>>> system is SBS no component of the SBS applications can be
    >>>>>>>>>>> moved to another box, but, for example, you could easily set
    >>>>>>>>>>> up an SMTP service
    >>>>>>>>>>> on another box, it would just need to be an SMTP service (or
    >>>>>>>>>>> virtual server) which IS NOT part of SBS Exchange. eg. GFI
    >>>>>>>>>>> ME can be set up as an SMTP filter on a front end which
    >>>>>>>>>>> feeds SBS exchange, I'm not suggesting this is recommended
    >>>>>>>>>>> let alone advised but it is a possibility.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> "Jack" <jack2007a@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>> news:ulJk936nEHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>>>>>>> I disabled socketpooling If you read my first article
    >>>>>>>>>>>> properly
    >>>>>>>>>>>> it says that. I have done what i should but sbs2k is
    >>>>>>>>>>>> useless.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> I will move the web pages to another server and if i do
    >>>>>>>>>>>> that
    >>>>>>>>>>>> is it possible to move the exchange virtual servers to a
    >>>>>>>>>>>> member server on my network?
    >>>>>>>>>>>> cheers
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Jack.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@your.nellie> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>> news:#20YGAsnEHA.2140@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> go through the to-do list. 'Configure IIS' (will disable
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> socket pooling and bind the IIS listeners to the internal
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> only) and 'Connect to the Internet'.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mick Malloy
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.micropol.com.au
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> "jack" <jack2007a@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:edIEBwrnEHA.2388@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is 2 nics and here is My ipconfig:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows 2000 IP Configuration
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : server
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Primary DNS Suffix  . . . . . . . : domain name
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain name
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ethernet adapter local:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC7760 Gigabit
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Server Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : mac
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> address
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.2
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.2
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.2
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ethernet adapter external:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC3123 Fast
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ethernet NIC Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : mac
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> address
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.4.9
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.4.11
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.2
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@your.nellie> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:erix$zqnEHA.3876@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looks like a single NIC SBS? correct?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please give us the output of 'ipconfig /all >
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> c:\ipconfig.txt' from the server.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mick Malloy
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.micropol.com.au
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Jack" <jack2007a@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:OLR6ksqnEHA.1304@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am new to sbs and i need some help with publishing 0n
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isa. I keep gettig the error below in the event viewer:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web Proxy service failed to bind its socket to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 192.168.4.9
    >>>>>>>> port
    >>>>>>>>>>> 443.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could be caused by another service that is already
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using the
    >>>>>>>>> same
    >>>>>>>>>>>> port
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a network interface card that is not functional. The
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> error code specified in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Data area of the event properties indicates the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause of the failure. For more information about this
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> event,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see ISA Server Help.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked on the web for help and did a netstat -an and
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
    >>>>>>>> is
    >>>>>>>>>> what
    >>>>>>>>>>> i
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> get:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TCP     192.168.4.9:443     0.0.0.0:0    LISTENING.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do i stop this error. I found an article to disable
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> socketpooling on
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sbs if isa and iss are on the same box but it didn't
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to
    >>>>>>>> do
    >>>>>>>>>> any
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> good.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any help would be much appreciated.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jack. 
    

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