Re: Remote office
From: Marina Roos [SBS-MVP] (marina_at_roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com)
Date: 10/02/04
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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 11:18:07 GMT
Hi Dave,
Come back here if you have nightmares ;-)
-- Regards, Marina Microsoft SBS-MVP "Dave Claxon" <maintenance@NOSPAM.fitcen.bogus.com> schreef in bericht news:epOMmn$pEHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > Thanks, Marina. That's just what I needed. Now if I can just find time to > get it done. (Network admin is just something that got added to my regular > duties of building maintenance, and we just started construction on the > remote office this week. Then add to that the two computer classes I started > at the local Jr. College last month (prerequsites to the networking classes > I'd like to take) and I guess I'll schedule some sleep for about January.) > I'll see you when I wake up next spring, > Dave > > "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote in message > news:edJ3A20pEHA.1160@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > > Hi Dave, > > > > If you can setup that member DC on your local network, that would be > > great. > > It would save you some trouble. You can also create and test the vpn > > connection on it, by putting that member server on the router (if your > > router has more ports of course). Then bring it to the remote location, > > and > > modify the vpn connection to let it run over the internet. > > The workstations in the remote location will have to be joined to the > > domain > > of course, but you can already setup the computer accounts and user > > accounts. > > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > Marina > > Microsoft SBS-MVP > > > > "Dave Claxon" <maintenance@NOSPAM.fitcen.bogus.com> schreef in bericht > > news:%23pcUDAzpEHA.3300@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > >> Marina, > >> > >> Thanks a lot. That is just the information I was looking for. (Ant I > >> could > >> have sworn this forum is where I learned the term BDC, and I had never > > been > >> anywhere near a server of any kind until my boss bought this SBS2000 > >> about > > 2 > >> years ago and asked me to set it up.) Also, would the setup be close > > enough > >> to the same to set it up here on the local network ahead of time, then > >> unplug it , carry it to the remote office and set up the VPN, or would > >> the > >> settings change too much from local network to remote network? > >> > >> Thanks a lot, > >> Dave > >> > >> "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote in > > message > >> news:%23w$f3bYpEHA.2864@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > >> > Hi Dave, > >> > > >> > We don't usually speak of BDC anymore since NT4. But you can have the > >> > other > >> > server be a Domain Controller. Install DNS server on it. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Regards, > >> > > >> > Marina > >> > Microsoft SBS-MVP > >> > > >> > "Dave Claxon" <maintenance@NOSPAM.fitcen.bogus.com> schreef in bericht > >> > news:uv2hMkWpEHA.1136@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > >> >> Marina, > >> >> > >> >> Thanks. I think I have already seen that article, and I have a pretty > >> >> good > >> >> idea how to set up the connection itself. My original questionwas just > >> >> whether or not I could make the server at the remote office be a > >> >> backup > >> >> domain controller for the SBS2k at the main office. > >> >> > >> >> Dave > >> >> > >> >> "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote in > >> > message > >> >> news:%23Lx6aD%23oEHA.2864@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > >> >> > Hi Dave, > >> >> > > >> >> > Maybe this whitepaper helps?: > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sbs/2000/maintain/remotofc.mspx > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Regards, > >> >> > > >> >> > Marina > >> >> > Microsoft SBS-MVP > >> >> > > >> >> > "Dave Claxon" <maintenance@NOSPAM.fitcen.bogus.com> schreef in > > bericht > >> >> > news:ev8WM%239oEHA.3428@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > >> >> >> Merv, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> That is actually what the original plan had been, until we decided > > on > >> >> >> a > >> >> >> security system that runs on its own computer (Linux, but that's a > >> >> > different > >> >> >> problem), and that is the one we need to monitor from home office. > > So > >> >> > while > >> >> >> there will only be one employee at a time, there will be more than > > one > >> >> >> computer. It seems the easiest way to connect both computers is to > >> >> >> make > >> >> > the > >> >> >> VPN from a server. (If there's an easier way to connect one Windoze > >> >> >> workstation and one Linux at the same time, I'm open to > > suggestions.) > >> >> > Which > >> >> >> then leasd to the possibility of a third computer, to avoid using > > the > >> >> > server > >> >> >> as a workstation. Which then brings us back to mu original > >> >> >> question, > >> >> >> if > >> >> >> we > >> >> >> have a server at the remote office, can it be a backup domain > >> > controller > >> >> > to > >> >> >> the SBS at the main office? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Thanks, > >> >> >> Dave > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@no_spam_hotmail.com> wrote in > > message > >> >> >> news:%234vKDInoEHA.1988@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > >> >> >> > If there's only going to be one person at a time in the remote > >> > office, > >> >> > why > >> >> >> > not set up a WinXP Pro workstation in the main office and > >> >> >> > dedicate > >> >> >> > it > >> >> > for > >> >> >> > remtoe office use only? You'd only need one workstation at the > >> > remote > >> >> >> > office and an Internet connection. Then VPN into the main office > >> >> >> > and > >> >> > fire > >> >> >> > up an RDC session with the dedicated WinXP machine and remote > >> >> >> > control > >> >> >> > it > >> >> >> > from there. Again, everything will be done on the LAN and you'd > >> >> >> > have > >> >> >> > centralized administration of data, backups, etc. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> > Merv Porter [SBS MVP] > >> >> >> > =================================== > >> >> >> > "Dave Claxon" <maintenance@NOSPAM.fitcen.bogus.com> wrote in > > message > >> >> >> > news:ebGgrtloEHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > >> >> >> >> Merv, > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Thanks for the answer, but I don't think performance will really > > be > >> > an > >> >> >> > issue > >> >> >> >> in this case, because I don't think there will be that much > >> >> >> >> traffic. > >> >> >> > Remote > >> >> >> >> office will only be staffed part time, only one person at a > >> >> >> >> time, > >> > and > >> >> > not > >> >> >> > a > >> >> >> >> lot of computer use will be part of their job. Occaisional > > e-mail, > >> > and > >> >> >> > when > >> >> >> >> a member comes in they will need to log in to the member > >> >> >> >> database > >> >> >> >> at > >> >> > the > >> >> >> >> main office. Mainly we will need to connect from the main office > > to > >> >> > check > >> >> >> >> the computer that will run the security system at the remote > >> >> >> >> office. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Dave > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@no_spam_hotmail.com> wrote in > >> > message > >> >> >> >> news:ucFmpFQoEHA.1176@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > >> >> >> >> > Dave: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > You may find that VPN (even with broadband) is fairly slow for > >> > file > >> >> >> >> sharing, > >> >> >> >> > email, etc. A better solution may be to put a Terminal Server > >> > (with > >> >> >> > Win2K > >> >> >> >> > server on it) next to the SBS server at the main office and > > have > >> > the > >> >> >> >> remote > >> >> >> >> > office access it. It's fast because only screens shot (no > >> > actually > >> >> >> > data) > >> >> >> >> > will be transmitted and the remote user's "experience" will be > >> >> >> >> > far > >> >> >> > better. > >> >> >> >> > Also, all the remote user's files will be centrally located at > >> >> >> >> > the > >> >> > main > >> >> >> >> > offfice for nightly backup and disaster recovery. Your SBS > >> >> >> >> > covers > >> >> > the > >> >> >> >> Win2K > >> >> >> >> > Server CALs for your remote users and if they are Win2K or > > WinXp, > >> >> >> >> > the > >> >> >> >> > TS > >> >> >> >> > CALs are covered by TS 2000. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > You can get an idea of the speed difference by comparing a > >> > straight > >> >> > VPN > >> >> >> >> and > >> >> >> >> > then manipulating files vs creating and TS session to the > > server > >> >> > (like > >> >> >> > you > >> >> >> >> > probably do now for remote administration) > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Using SBS 2000 with Terminal Services in Application Server > > Mode > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > > http://members.microsoft.com/partner/products/Servers/SmallBusinessServer/SBS2000_Plus_W2KServer_Running_TS.aspx > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> >> > Merv Porter [SBS MVP] > >> >> >> >> > =================================== > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > "Dave Claxon" <maintenance@NOSPAM.fitcen.bogus.com> wrote in > >> > message > >> >> >> >> > news:evCqWDPoEHA.4032@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > >> >> >> >> > > We are getting ready to open a remote office and we are > >> >> >> >> > > going > >> >> >> >> > > to > >> >> >> > connect > >> >> >> >> > the > >> >> >> >> > > computer there to our SBS2000 through VPN. (Cable modem at > > both > >> >> >> >> > > ends.) > >> >> >> >> > I've > >> >> >> >> > > read the articles on setting up a persistant VPN, and we > >> >> >> >> > > have > > a > >> >> >> >> > > static > >> >> >> >> IP > >> >> >> >> > > address, and I think I mostly have a handle on it, but I > >> >> >> >> > > have > > a > >> >> >> >> > > couple > >> >> >> >> of > >> >> >> >> > > questions, if someone has an answer. Firstly, since it is > >> >> >> >> > > beginning > >> >> >> >> > > to > >> >> >> >> > look > >> >> >> >> > > as if we may have more than one computer at the remote > > office, > >> > we > >> >> > are > >> >> >> >> > > considering making one of them Win2kServer and connecting > >> > through > >> >> > it. > >> >> >> >> > Would > >> >> >> >> > > it then be possible to make this remote server a BDC for the > >> >> >> >> > > SBS > >> >> >> > domain? > >> >> >> >> > > Secondly, if a remote BDC is possible, could I set it up on > > the > >> >> > local > >> >> >> >> > > network ahead of time, then transport it to the remote > >> >> >> >> > > office > >> > when > >> >> >> >> > > the > >> >> >> >> > time > >> >> >> >> > > comes and set up the VPN, or are the settings too much > >> >> >> >> > > different > >> >> >> >> > > to > >> >> >> >> mal\ke > >> >> >> >> > > it worthwhile? > >> >> >> >> > > Thanks for your advice, > >> >> >> >> > > Dave > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
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