Re: Remote office

From: Dave Claxon (maintenance_at_NOSPAM.fitcen.bogus.com)
Date: 10/01/04 

Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 16:01:59 -0500

Thanks, Marina. That's just what I needed. Now if I can just find time to
get it done. (Network admin is just something that got added to my regular
duties of building maintenance, and we just started construction on the
remote office this week. Then add to that the two computer classes I started
at the local Jr. College last month (prerequsites to the networking classes
I'd like to take) and I guess I'll schedule some sleep for about January.)
I'll see you when I wake up next spring,
Dave

"Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote in message
news:edJ3A20pEHA.1160@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hi Dave,
>
> If you can setup that member DC on your local network, that would be
> great.
> It would save you some trouble. You can also create and test the vpn
> connection on it, by putting that member server on the router (if your
> router has more ports of course). Then bring it to the remote location,
> and
> modify the vpn connection to let it run over the internet.
> The workstations in the remote location will have to be joined to the
> domain
> of course, but you can already setup the computer accounts and user
> accounts.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Marina
> Microsoft SBS-MVP
>
> "Dave Claxon" <maintenance@NOSPAM.fitcen.bogus.com> schreef in bericht
> news:%23pcUDAzpEHA.3300@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Marina,
>>
>> Thanks a lot. That is just the information I was looking for. (Ant I
>> could
>> have sworn this forum is where I learned the term BDC, and I had never
> been
>> anywhere near a server of any kind until my boss bought this SBS2000
>> about
> 2
>> years ago and asked me to set it up.) Also, would the setup be close
> enough
>> to the same to set it up here on the local network ahead of time, then
>> unplug it , carry it to the remote office and set up the VPN, or would
>> the
>> settings change too much from local network to remote network?
>>
>> Thanks a lot,
>> Dave
>>
>> "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote in
> message
>> news:%23w$f3bYpEHA.2864@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> > Hi Dave,
>> >
>> > We don't usually speak of BDC anymore since NT4. But you can have the
>> > other
>> > server be a Domain Controller. Install DNS server on it.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Marina
>> > Microsoft SBS-MVP
>> >
>> > "Dave Claxon" <maintenance@NOSPAM.fitcen.bogus.com> schreef in bericht
>> > news:uv2hMkWpEHA.1136@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> >> Marina,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks. I think I have already seen that article, and I have a pretty
>> >> good
>> >> idea how to set up the connection itself. My original questionwas just
>> >> whether or not I could make the server at the remote office be a
>> >> backup
>> >> domain controller for the SBS2k at the main office.
>> >>
>> >> Dave
>> >>
>> >> "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote in
>> > message
>> >> news:%23Lx6aD%23oEHA.2864@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Hi Dave,
>> >> >
>> >> > Maybe this whitepaper helps?:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sbs/2000/maintain/remotofc.mspx
>> >> > --
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> >
>> >> > Marina
>> >> > Microsoft SBS-MVP
>> >> >
>> >> > "Dave Claxon" <maintenance@NOSPAM.fitcen.bogus.com> schreef in
> bericht
>> >> > news:ev8WM%239oEHA.3428@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> Merv,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That is actually what the original plan had been, until we decided
> on
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> security system that runs on its own computer (Linux, but that's a
>> >> > different
>> >> >> problem), and that is the one we need to monitor from home office.
> So
>> >> > while
>> >> >> there will only be one employee at a time, there will be more than
> one
>> >> >> computer. It seems the easiest way to connect both computers is to
>> >> >> make
>> >> > the
>> >> >> VPN from a server. (If there's an easier way to connect one Windoze
>> >> >> workstation and one Linux at the same time, I'm open to
> suggestions.)
>> >> > Which
>> >> >> then leasd to the possibility of a third computer, to avoid using
> the
>> >> > server
>> >> >> as a workstation. Which then brings us back to mu original
>> >> >> question,
>> >> >> if
>> >> >> we
>> >> >> have a server at the remote office, can it be a backup domain
>> > controller
>> >> > to
>> >> >> the SBS at the main office?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> Dave
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@no_spam_hotmail.com> wrote in
> message
>> >> >> news:%234vKDInoEHA.1988@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> > If there's only going to be one person at a time in the remote
>> > office,
>> >> > why
>> >> >> > not set up a WinXP Pro workstation in the main office and
>> >> >> > dedicate
>> >> >> > it
>> >> > for
>> >> >> > remtoe office use only? You'd only need one workstation at the
>> > remote
>> >> >> > office and an Internet connection. Then VPN into the main office
>> >> >> > and
>> >> > fire
>> >> >> > up an RDC session with the dedicated WinXP machine and remote
>> >> >> > control
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > from there. Again, everything will be done on the LAN and you'd
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > centralized administration of data, backups, etc.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
>> >> >> > ===================================
>> >> >> > "Dave Claxon" <maintenance@NOSPAM.fitcen.bogus.com> wrote in
> message
>> >> >> > news:ebGgrtloEHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> >> Merv,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thanks for the answer, but I don't think performance will really
> be
>> > an
>> >> >> > issue
>> >> >> >> in this case, because I don't think there will be that much
>> >> >> >> traffic.
>> >> >> > Remote
>> >> >> >> office will only be staffed part time, only one person at a
>> >> >> >> time,
>> > and
>> >> > not
>> >> >> > a
>> >> >> >> lot of computer use will be part of their job. Occaisional
> e-mail,
>> > and
>> >> >> > when
>> >> >> >> a member comes in they will need to log in to the member
>> >> >> >> database
>> >> >> >> at
>> >> > the
>> >> >> >> main office. Mainly we will need to connect from the main office
> to
>> >> > check
>> >> >> >> the computer that will run the security system at the remote
>> >> >> >> office.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Dave
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@no_spam_hotmail.com> wrote in
>> > message
>> >> >> >> news:ucFmpFQoEHA.1176@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> >> > Dave:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > You may find that VPN (even with broadband) is fairly slow for
>> > file
>> >> >> >> sharing,
>> >> >> >> > email, etc. A better solution may be to put a Terminal Server
>> > (with
>> >> >> > Win2K
>> >> >> >> > server on it) next to the SBS server at the main office and
> have
>> > the
>> >> >> >> remote
>> >> >> >> > office access it. It's fast because only screens shot (no
>> > actually
>> >> >> > data)
>> >> >> >> > will be transmitted and the remote user's "experience" will be
>> >> >> >> > far
>> >> >> > better.
>> >> >> >> > Also, all the remote user's files will be centrally located at
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> > main
>> >> >> >> > offfice for nightly backup and disaster recovery. Your SBS
>> >> >> >> > covers
>> >> > the
>> >> >> >> Win2K
>> >> >> >> > Server CALs for your remote users and if they are Win2K or
> WinXp,
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > TS
>> >> >> >> > CALs are covered by TS 2000.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > You can get an idea of the speed difference by comparing a
>> > straight
>> >> > VPN
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> > then manipulating files vs creating and TS session to the
> server
>> >> > (like
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> >> > probably do now for remote administration)
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Using SBS 2000 with Terminal Services in Application Server
> Mode
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
> http://members.microsoft.com/partner/products/Servers/SmallBusinessServer/SBS2000_Plus_W2KServer_Running_TS.aspx
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> > Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
>> >> >> >> > ===================================
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "Dave Claxon" <maintenance@NOSPAM.fitcen.bogus.com> wrote in
>> > message
>> >> >> >> > news:evCqWDPoEHA.4032@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> >> > > We are getting ready to open a remote office and we are
>> >> >> >> > > going
>> >> >> >> > > to
>> >> >> > connect
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > > computer there to our SBS2000 through VPN. (Cable modem at
> both
>> >> >> >> > > ends.)
>> >> >> >> > I've
>> >> >> >> > > read the articles on setting up a persistant VPN, and we
>> >> >> >> > > have
> a
>> >> >> >> > > static
>> >> >> >> IP
>> >> >> >> > > address, and I think I mostly have a handle on it, but I
>> >> >> >> > > have
> a
>> >> >> >> > > couple
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> > > questions, if someone has an answer. Firstly, since it is
>> >> >> >> > > beginning
>> >> >> >> > > to
>> >> >> >> > look
>> >> >> >> > > as if we may have more than one computer at the remote
> office,
>> > we
>> >> > are
>> >> >> >> > > considering making one of them Win2kServer and connecting
>> > through
>> >> > it.
>> >> >> >> > Would
>> >> >> >> > > it then be possible to make this remote server a BDC for the
>> >> >> >> > > SBS
>> >> >> > domain?
>> >> >> >> > > Secondly, if a remote BDC is possible, could I set it up on
> the
>> >> > local
>> >> >> >> > > network ahead of time, then transport it to the remote
>> >> >> >> > > office
>> > when
>> >> >> >> > > the
>> >> >> >> > time
>> >> >> >> > > comes and set up the VPN, or are the settings too much
>> >> >> >> > > different
>> >> >> >> > > to
>> >> >> >> mal\ke
>> >> >> >> > > it worthwhile?
>> >> >> >> > > Thanks for your advice,
>> >> >> >> > > Dave
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
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>> >> >>
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>

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