Re: SBS W2k Losing Disk Space For No Apparent Reason
From: Ken Bowman (anonymous_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 08/11/04
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 23:30:32 -0700
Hi David,
As the disk space problem on drive C: is now resolved,
thanks to you. I will start a new posting for each of
other two issues that I have - Trying to get an automated
tape backup to work and the fact that no matter what I do
I keep getting the application log full message popping
up. Because it logs everything - information messages
etc it fills up quite quickly.
Regards,
Ken.
>-----Original Message-----
>Hi David,
>
>I updated this posting last night however checking it
>this morning it has not been updated. The following
>message is an update from actions I took using the
>information you provided. The point of this update is
to
>advise you that I am leaving on a long weekend this
>morning, back Tuesday. I will check this posting then.
>It would be great to bottom out the media backup issue
>and the very frustrating application log full message.
>
>Thank you for all your help thus far.
>
>Regards,
>
>Ken.
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hi David,
>>
>>Having read the links I tried an experiment, ran a
>Normal
>>backup against the Exchange First Storage Group then
>>checked the log files - success, they have gone from
>using
>>over 1GB of disk space down to 700MB, all the log files
>>prior to today have been deleted. I also followed the
>>instructions for moving the transaction logs to another
>>location, now on the D: drive, have now gained an
>>astounding 4.5GB of free disk space on the C: drive. I
>>can actually run things like disk defrag etc now.
>>
>>So as it stands at present I still have to issues, the
>>media issue and for some reason I just cannot get the
>>Application log in the Event logs to stop coming up
with
>>the Application log full message. I have set group
>>policies, changed the options / filter within the
>>application log properties but it always reports every
>>event and ignores the overwrite when appropraite option.
>>
>>Obviously the media issue is my main concern at
present,
>I
>>look forward to hearing back from you David, and much
>>appreciate your help.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Ken.
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Hi Ken,
>>>
>>>It helps in so far as confirming that this is not the
>way
>>to do it. Have a
>>>look through the links previously posted - these will
>>provide a far clearer
>>>explanation of how it should be getting done.
>>>
>>>The problem with the media not being used correctly is
>>another issue [which
>>>many, many of us here have experienced - indeed, I am
>>currently 'suffering'
>>>from this myself for the first time in ages...] that
we
>>can address but
>>>first step is to get your backup file correct. Once
>this
>>is in place, it can
>>>be run manually and your log files will disappear if
it
>>is carried out
>>>successfully. Once we get to this stage, we can
>>investigate the media issue.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Ken Bowman" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
>wrote
>>in message
>>>news:05a301c47ab4$7d3fed60$a501280a@phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi David,
>>>>
>>>> I used the backup wizard from system tools to create
a
>>>> selective files / folders backup set to run on a
>>>> scheduled daily basis. The scheduled job backs up
the
>>>> selected files / folders - system state data, to a
>file
>>>> on the D: drive. This runs in the evening. The next
>>>> morning this backup file is manually saved to tape.
>>>> (Have not as yet figured out how to get the morning
>>>> backup to run as an automated job. It always fails
>>>> complaining the inserted media is not the right one)?
>>>> When I get the error running manually I just tell it
>to
>>>> use the existing tape. (4mm DDS tape).
>>>>
>>>> Part of this automated backup does include the "M"
>>drive.
>>>> You say not to back this up?
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately I am not in front of the machine at
>>>> present, how do I select the first storage group for
>>>> backup, is it in a particular folder? Will have a
>look
>>>> when I get back in this morning.
>>>>
>>>> The backup reports show that a number of files in the
>>>> MDBDATA folder are being skipped due to being in use
>e.g
>>>> E00.log, priv1.edb, priv1.stm, pub1.edb, pub1.stm.
>>>> However all the E0000xxx log files are backed up.
The
>>>> DB0000XX.DAT files in the MTADATA folder are all
>skipped
>>>> due to being in use as well. There is a couple of
>other
>>>> files in this folder skipped as well due to being in
>>use.
>>>>
>>>> Does this help?
>>>>
>>>> I will now go and have a look at the link you
provided
>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Ken.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>> >Hi Ken,
>>>> >
>>>> >Don't touch that dial! - those log files *may* be
>your
>>>> best 'safety net'
>>>> >until we resolve the problem with your Exchange not
>>>> being backed up
>>>> >properly.
>>>> >
>>>> >The way Exchange works is that if it is fully
backed
>>up,
>>>> the log files are
>>>> >automatically deleted. If Exchange is not properly
>>>> backed up, the log files
>>>> >exist to allow you to get things restored fully in
>the
>>>> event of a failure.
>>>> >It would basically take the form of back to your
last
>>>> successful backup and
>>>> >the log files 'file in the gaps' to where you are
>now,
>>>> if you see what I
>>>> >mean.
>>>> >
>>>> >So NO - don't manually delete these just yet. Once
we
>>>> resolve the problem
>>>> >with Exchange not being backed up, the Exchange logs
>>>> will be cleared
>>>> >automatically.
>>>> >
>>>> >More info here:
>>>> >http://www.smallbizserver.net/Default.aspx?
tabid=74 -
>>>> How do I backup and
>>>> >restore Exchange
>>>> >
>>>> >With regards your NTBackup, how is this being
>>performed?
>>>> Is it a backup file
>>>> >created within NTBackup and scheduled from there
>also
>>to
>>>> run automatically
>>>> >or have you created a batch file to do the job? Is
>this
>>>> backing up your
>>>> >Exchange data properly - you should *NOT* select
the
>M:
>>>> drive but you should
>>>> >ensure that the First Storage Group is selected for
>>>> Exchange to be backed
>>>> >up. What do your backup logs show?
>>>> >
>>>> >More info on Backup procedures for SBS can be found
>>here:
>>>> >http://www.smallbizserver.net/Default.aspx?
tabid=38 -
>>>> How to backup your SBS
>>>> >2000 Server [same applies to 2003]
>>>> >
>>>> >Those should get you on the right track. If you are
>>>> already doing things
>>>> >this way, then we'll have to suss out what the
>problem
>>>> is and why your
>>>> >backups ain't getting done properly... post back
your
>>>> findings for the group
>>>> >in any case.
>>>> >
>>>> >Hope that helps!
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >David
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >"Ken Bowman" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>wrote
>>>> in message
>>>> >news:00ad01c47a44$a4dc1cb0$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>>>> >> Hi,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The C: drive is 8GB, RAID 5 across 3 x 36GB
>disks.
>>D:
>>>> >> drive is 54GB (approx) RAID 5 over the same 3 x
>36GB
>>>> >> disks.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Have checked the folder MDBDATA and it has 1,004x
>5MB
>>>> log
>>>> >> files in it. Found the missing space. Can I
just
>go
>>>> >> ahead and delete these?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The badmail folder had around 50 files in it total
>>>> space
>>>> >> used 4MB's.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> If I can manually delete / move these files is
>there
>>>> any
>>>> >> particular ones I must not delete / move?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You say the backup is not configured correctly -
>how
>>>> >> should it be configured?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I thought ntbackup.exe automatically handled
>Exchange
>>>> >> temporary file deletion.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Look forward to your reply.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Ken.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>>>> >> >First, you don't indicate your disk partition
>sizes.
>>>> How
>>>> >> big is your C:
>>>> >> >drive? D: drive?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >To see if Exchange is a culprit, open up C: /
>>Program
>>>> >> Files / Exchsrvr /
>>>> >> >MDBDATA directory and see how many .log files
>>appear.
>>>> If
>>>> >> you have a ton of
>>>> >> >them, then your backup is not configured
>correctly.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >If you do not have a lot of .log files, it may
be
>>that
>>>> >> your Exchange stores
>>>> >> >are just growing rapidly. You may wish to
consider
>>>> >> relocating your Exchange
>>>> >> >files to another partition, as well as any shared
>>>> >> user/company folders.
>>>> >> >There are documents on how to move them
available
>on
>>>> >> Microsoft's web site.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >Finally, if the above is not the issue, you may
>then
>>>> >> need to determine if
>>>> >> >your system is being used (spammed/relayed) by
>>others.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >--
>>>> >> >Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]
>>>> >> >"The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are
>>>> seldom
>>>> >> long"
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >"Ken Bowman"
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>>> wrote
>>>> >> in message
>>>> >> >news:beca01c479eb$633f3a20$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>>>> >> >> Hi,
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> I believe Exchange is on the C: drive, I use
>>Backup
>>>> as
>>>> >> >> supplied with the operating system (ntbackup, I
>>>> believe
>>>> >> >> it is Exchange-aware).
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> It is 07:20am here at present, I will not be
on-
>>site
>>>> >> >> until lunchtime (12:00). Once on-site I will
>>check
>>>> >> this
>>>> >> >> out and post back.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Regards,
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Ken.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
>>>> >> >> >Are your Exchange databases on the C: drive?
>Are
>>>> you
>>>> >> >> performing an
>>>> >> >> >Exchange-aware backup?
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >Browse to your MDBDATA folder - are there
lots
>of
>>>> log
>>>> >> >> files of 5Mb?
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >Post back and we'll see if we can find out the
>>>> cause.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >Regards,
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >David
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >"Ken Bowman"
>><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>>> >> wrote
>>>> >> >> in message
>>>> >> >> >news:baea01c4798e$806cfe00$a501280a@phx.gbl...
>>>> >> >> >> Hi,
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> I have a SBS W2K server that is using up
disk
>>>> space
>>>> >> on
>>>> >> >> >> the C: drive for no apparent reason. For
>>example
>>>> >> today
>>>> >> >> >> nearly 80MB's disappeared when nothing had
>been
>>>> >> added.
>>>> >> >> >> There was only a skeleton staff working
today
>>>> with
>>>> >> only
>>>> >> >> >> one person doing work on the server, and
>that
>>was
>>>> >> >> >> clearing off some old files on the D: drive.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> Checked all temp folders / recycle bin etc
>but
>>>> only
>>>> >> by
>>>> >> >> >> doing a system reboot did it actually
>recover
>>any
>>>> >> disk
>>>> >> >> >> space and that was only 3MB's. The problem
>>only
>>>> >> seems
>>>> >> >> to
>>>> >> >> >> be on the C: drive.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> I have noticed some one else has logged a
>>similar
>>>> >> >> problem
>>>> >> >> >> on a W2K DC server in the Windows General
>>>> newsgroup.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> Any ideas on how to stop this loss of disk
>>space
>>>> and
>>>> >> >> how
>>>> >> >> >> to get it back would be much appreciated.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> Disks are running in RAID 5, dynamic
>>>> configuration.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> Regards,
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> Ken.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >.
>>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>
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