Re: Still have problem with DNS forwarding

anonymous_at_discussions.microsoft.com
Date: 04/26/04


Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:58:58 -0700

I would dearly like to not only unplug the linux server,
but also throw it through the window of a very tall
building overlooking a wrecking yard!! But if i do, i
know that the client will lose all name resolution, which
means no internet, mail delivery, etc.

There are 2 nic in the system, one of which is disabled
through windows. The active nic ip is 192.168.254.1 and
is connected to the internal LAN.

Regards

Darren
>-----Original Message-----
>So unplug the linux server..its acting in the network
somewhere
>
>How many nics in your SBS server
>What are they connected to??
>What do you have as the DNS address on them??
>
>
>
>--
>Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
>---------------------------------------------------------

---
>Please DO NOT respond directly to me but rather in the 
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><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 
>news:429201c42b68$a23964c0$a001280a@phx.gbl...
>> The story so far, well as much of it as i have been 
told!
>> (Customer has fallen out with original supplier)
>>
>> The linux server was part of the original setup which
>> included a w2k server. The linux server provided imap4
>> mail facilities, and dns, while the w2k, as far as i
>> could tell, sat doing nothing. The client save their
>> files to the linux server (samba) occasionally.
>>
>> My brief was to reconfigure the existing setup to
>> centralise all of the files and email functionality.
>>
>> I have installed w2003 sbs on the old w2k server, and
>> migrated to clients (3 in all!) to the new server. 
Setup
>> OWA, which works very well, apart from the vaguaries 
of a
>> satillite broadband connection. I have also installed a
>> Cisco PIX501 firewall on the gateway to the lan. All 
set-
>> up and running beautifully, apart from the dns problem.
>>
>> The linux baox is still on the network because without
>> it, i cannot resolve dns queries forwarded to any other
>> server.
>>
>> I understand how to set up the CIECW, and have setup 
the
>> isp (BTOpenwound) dns server. But without the linux
>> server being the primary forwarder, names cannot be
>> resolved.
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Darren
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Well...lets step back
>>>
>>>Why is the linux box still up and on the network??
>>>
>>>SBS should "optimally" have two nics
>>>1 for internal LAN connections, running to a switch/hub
>> and all workstations
>>>connect to the hub as well
>>>1 for external/internet connection, to either a router,
>> cablemodem, DSL
>>>modem, or other device and it is the only thing
>> connected to that device
>>>
>>>These two nics should be on different IP subnets   The
>> IP address of the
>>>internal nic should be the DNS address for the LAN
>>>When you run the CEICW you would specify the IP
>> addresses of your ISPs DNS
>>>servers.
>>>
>>>Who set this linux server up and why??
>>>
>>>-- 
>>>Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
>>>-------------------------------------------------------
--
>> ---
>>>Please DO NOT respond directly to me but rather in the
>> newsgroup so that
>>>everyone can benefit
>>><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>news:3a6a01c429ce$05765760$a101280a@phx.gbl...
>>>>I don't know, not being over familiar with linux
>>>> (Microsoft born and bred!). How would i find out?
>>>>
>>>> I certainly do not reference the linux server in 
anyway
>>>> on the sbs, and it still has problems when it comes 
to
>>>> dns. How could the linux server do this? The only 
thing
>>>> that i could think of is that it in some way has
>> promoted
>>>> itself to be the authoritive dns server on the lan. 
It
>>>> was running the dns in the old set-up, the install of
>> the
>>>> sbs was a fresh one (Not upgrade).
>>>>
>>>> The other thing i thought of was that when i 
installed
>>>> the sbs on the server, it had two nic's installed. Is
>>>> there anyway that it could be trying to use the
>> disabled
>>>> nic for dns in preference to the enabled nic?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Darren Woodman
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>Sorry I haven't jumped into this before and you 
started
>>>> a new thread so I
>>>>>don't know the history
>>>>>
>>>>>Is there a nic running from your SBS box to your 
Linux
>>>> box and then your
>>>>>linux box to the internet...in otherwords is the 
linux
>>>> box acting as some
>>>>>sort of proxy server??
>>>>>
>>>>>-- 
>>>>>Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
>>>>>-----------------------------------------------------
--
>> --
>>>> ---
>>>>>Please DO NOT respond directly to me but rather in 
the
>>>> newsgroup so that
>>>>>everyone can benefit
>>>>>"Darren Woodman" 
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>>> wrote in message
>>>>>news:2f7f01c428c9$7be5ece0$a601280a@phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Subject:  Re: DNS
>>>>>> From:  "anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com"
>>>>>> <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> Sent:
>> 4/22/2004
>>>>>> 1:26:55 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well spotted, this was the result of my work LATE
>> last
>>>>>> night. I have ammended this (Although it was OK
>> before
>>>> i
>>>>>> changed it for some other clients network address 
by
>>>>>> mistake), and i have run the CEICW.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I still have the same problem, if i make anything
>> other
>>>>>> than the linux server (192.168.254.15) the first
>>>> forward
>>>>>> resolution path, anything relying on name 
resolution
>>>>>> fails, email, internet access, etc, etc....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Darren
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>If your server has IP 192.168.254.1 than DNS should
>> be
>>>>>> the same.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-- 
>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Marina
>>>>>>>Microsoft SBS-MVP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in
>>>> bericht
>>>>>>>news:29e401c4283a$81b20bc0$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Below is the output of the ipconfig /all
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> C:\Documents and
>> Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Windows IP Configuration
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : epd1
>>>>>>>>    Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : EPD.co.uk
>>>>>>>>    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>>>>>>>>    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>>>>>>>    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>>>>>>>    DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : EPD.co.uk
>>>>>>>>                                        co.uk
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>>>>>>>>    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R)
>>>>>> PRO/1000
>>>>>>>> MT Network Connection
>>>>>>>>    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-07-E9-
4D-
>>>> F3-
>>>>>> 01
>>>>>>>>    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>>>>>>>>    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . :
>> 192.168.254.1
>>>>>>>>    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . :
>> 255.255.255.0
>>>>>>>>    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>>>> 192.168.254.254
>>>>>>>>    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 
192.168.16.1
>>>>>>>>    Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . :
>> 192.168.254.1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is the output of nslookup when trying to
>> resolve
>>>>>>>> name with the ISP forwarders active
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Default Server:  epd1.epd.co.uk
>>>>>>>> Address:  192.168.254.1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > bbc.co.uk
>>>>>>>> Server:  epd1.epd.co.uk
>>>>>>>> Address:  192.168.254.1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DNS request timed out.
>>>>>>>>     timeout was 2 seconds.
>>>>>>>> DNS request timed out.
>>>>>>>>     timeout was 2 seconds.
>>>>>>>> *** Request to epd1.epd.co.uk timed-out
>>>>>>>> > google.co.uk
>>>>>>>> Server:  epd1.epd.co.uk
>>>>>>>> Address:  192.168.254.1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DNS request timed out.
>>>>>>>>     timeout was 2 seconds.
>>>>>>>> DNS request timed out.
>>>>>>>>     timeout was 2 seconds.
>>>>>>>> *** Request to epd1.epd.co.uk timed-out
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Darren Woodman
>>>>>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> >Connect Email and Internet Connection Wizard. 
This
>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> set everything up
>>>>>>>> >for you.
>>>>>>>> >Can you post the ipconfig/all from the server
>>>> please?
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >--
>>>>>>>> >Regards,
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >Marina
>>>>>>>> >Microsoft SBS-MVP
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> ><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in
>>>>>> bericht
>>>>>>>> >news:273a01c427f5$8b3d7cf0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> >> DNS Resolution only works when forwarded to 
the
>>>>>> Linux
>>>>>>>> >> server, and yes it is still on the network.
>> There
>>>>>> are 2
>>>>>>>> >> nic in the server, one disabled. What's CEICW?
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Ragards
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Darren Woodman
>>>>>>>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> >> >Is that Linuxbox still in the network? 2 nics
>> in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> >> server? Run the
>>>>>>>> >> >CEICW-wizard?
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> >--
>>>>>>>> >> >Regards,
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> >Marina
>>>>>>>> >> >Microsoft SBS-MVP
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> >"Darren Woodman" <drw@ecommdigital.co.uk>
>> schreef
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> >> bericht
>>>>>>>> >> >news:25b001c427ec$24e02150
$a601280a@phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> >> >> I have installed a SBS 2003 Server on my
>>>> customer
>>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>>> >> >> The installation went well, with no 
errors. I
>>>>>>>> configure
>>>>>>>> >> >> the internal dns to use the external dns
>>>> servers
>>>>>>>> >> >> recommended by the customer ISP 
(Forwarders).
>>>> The
>>>>>>>> >> >> original system before this was running 
IMAP
>>>> mail
>>>>>>>> on a
>>>>>>>> >> >> linux box, and DNS was configured on this
>>>>>> (external
>>>>>>>> >> >> resolution via dynamicdns). I cannot get 
the
>>>> SBS
>>>>>>>> 2003
>>>>>>>> >> to
>>>>>>>> >> >> forward dns requests for external 
resolution,
>>>>>> unless
>>>>>>>> >> the
>>>>>>>> >> >> sbs 2003 dns forwards to the old linux box
>>>>>> first. I
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> >> >> ping the ISP and other dns servers, so the
>>>>>> routing
>>>>>>>> side
>>>>>>>> >> >> of it is working. There is a Cisco PIX
>> firewall
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> >> >> gateway, but this is configured correctly.
>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> Any idea's?
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> >.
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>> 
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