Re: Need to Turn Off Proxy Server in SBS 4.5

From: Al Williams (donotreplydirect_at_usenewsgroup.com)
Date: 03/10/04


Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:39:39 -0700

Did you remove (or disable) the proxy client software installed on the
client machines (it is done by default when you install an SBS client)? If
IE's web proxy settings are disabled like you said, it will use the winsock
proxy if the client software is installed. You need to either remove the
client software or turn it off in the WSP Client control panel (and reboot).
You probably also need to change the default gateway and DNS settings in the
client as well to direct internet requests to the correct address.

-- 
Allan Williams
"ITC" <cls1@atlantic.net> wrote in message
news:MbL3c.41$g07.40779@newshog.newsread.com...
> Issue is moving users from SBS 4.5 Domain to Active Directory Domain.
Both
> machines cannot exist in the same domain, so two domains are needed.  SBS
> 4.5 does not allow trusts, so forget moving users and workstations to
domain
> # 2 and trusting them back to domain # 1 for services, files, etc. until
the
> transition is complete.
>
> Setup is standard...dual NICs.  NIC # 1 connects to a switch and lives in
> one local subnet convenient for the business system.  NIC # 2 is in
another
> local subnet convenient for the router and is directly connected to the
> router.   Server is internal only...no outside web or ftp serving.
>
> It *seems* like moving the patch from NIC # 2 to the switch (changing
cables
> as needed from crossover to straight) and telling the clients not to use a
> proxy *would* work, but unfortunately it does not.  (NOTE:  if the server
> has crashed, this does work...voice of experience!...but not with the
Proxy
> Server running.)  In addition to moving the cable and disabling the proxy
> client, as well as removing references in Internet Explorer to using a
> proxy, I have stopped all Proxy Server services at the server, to no
avail.
>
> I have more than 25 years experience, but only about three (3) years with
> SBS...lots more time with huge NT and Netware networks, and multi-platform
> networks with mixed OS workstations, mainframes, midranges, programming
and
> interfacing it all together.  Due to my limited experience with SBS 4.5,
the
> only thing I can figure is that since SBS allows authenticated domain
users
> internet access via integrated Proxy Server based on settings for each
user
> (which I have not altered during testing...turning internet access off for
a
> single test user), that...and I am *guessing* here...that Proxy Server may
> be *capturing* user requests intended for the router but unable to
*direct*
> the requests to the router once the patch cable from NIC # 2 to the router
> is *missing*.  I am hoping there is a way to disable, turn off, or bypass
> this single component of the integrated SBS 4.5 so my users can log into
> domain # 1 and have the internet until server # 1 is taken off-line
> permanently.
>
> We are a 24-hour operation and fairly small in people although large in
> territory and customer base, and there is minimal time to make a switch so
I
> have been instructed to make the switch during office hours...believe it
or
> not, this is the time of least impact since the larger number of employees
> are in the field at that time.  Irregardless, I need minimal impact for
> office users since they need access to the internet for information from
> government web sites critical to our business.
>
> I have not tested passing user requests from Domain # 2 to the internet
with
> the cables changed over, but will be doing this soon.  I am open to all
> suggestions.
>
> Thanks for all your help.
>
> - Cat
>
>
> "Rick Bond" <bond_1973@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:104u5dv3ipdbh01@corp.supernews.com...
> > Maybe I don't understand 100% what you're trying to do, but couldn't you
> > just (if you're currently running the standard 2 NIC setup) move the
> > Ethernet cable that goes from the router to the 2nd NIC in the server to
> the
> > switch (not sure if you'd need to change to/away from a crossover cable)
> and
> > then tell each client computer not to go through the proxy any more?
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > "ITC" <cls1@atlantic.net> wrote in message
> > news:SpE3c.29$g07.28104@newshog.newsread.com...
> > > I am not migrating to SBS 2003.  I am changing from SBS 4.5 to Windows
> > 2003
> > > Server Standard.    I need to disable Proxy Server and allow the
router
> to
> > > handle internet access via NAT.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > - Cat
> > >
> > >
> > > "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote in
> > message
> > > news:EMq3c.5938$ks5.27795@typhoon.bart.nl...
> > > > MS has this nice document for migrating from SBS 4.5 to SBS 2003.
You
> > > can't
> > > > migrate without being offline.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Marina
> > > > Microsoft SBS-MVP
> > > >
> > > > "ITC" <cls1@atlantic.net> schreef in bericht
> > > > news:Onp3c.7$g07.1819@newshog.newsread.com...
> > > > > I am putting a Windows 2003 Server on-line and removing Small
> Business
> > > > > Server 4.5 from service.  I want the changeover to be smooth and
> least
> > > > > impact to my users.  Of major concern is maintaining internet
access
> > > > during
> > > > > the changeover.  Since internet access is controlled by Proxy
> Server,
> > I
> > > > > would like to turn off Proxy Server and allow my router to handle
> > > access,
> > > > > but still need to have the SBS 4.5 server on-line to move data off
> and
> > > > > available for users who are not yet moved to the Win2003 Domain.
> Can
> > > > > someone please tell me how to accomplish this feat.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > - Cat
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


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